From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4PLgKFg004870 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 17:42:20 -0400 Received: from amsfep19-int.chello.nl (amsfep17-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.15]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4PLgF0r008606 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 17:42:16 -0400 Received: from laguna.nwhq.nl ([213.46.145.128]) by amsfep19-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20060525214209.QXTT24171.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@laguna.nwhq.nl> for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 23:42:09 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (velsatis.nwhq.nl [192.168.100.33]) by laguna.nwhq.nl (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4PLg9h0010149 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 23:42:09 +0200 Message-ID: <447624AB.5040409@neuroweave.nl> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 23:42:03 +0200 From: Joep Blom MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] booting from an LV References: <4472E235.6020707@neuroweave.nl> <20060523105821.GA6491@percy.comedia.it> <4472EE4E.9050208@neuroweave.nl> <4473ED42.1060702@wanadoo.fr> <4474B6E8.9010106@neuroweave.nl> <4474D256.8080603@chaos.ao.net> <4474D94B.7010504@neuroweave.nl> <44761EB9.2000901@conterra.de> In-Reply-To: <44761EB9.2000901@conterra.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: LVM general discussion and development List-Id: LVM general discussion and development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" To: LVM general discussion and development Dieter St=EF=BF=BDken wrote: > Joep Blom wrote: > >> Harik, >> I couldn't agree more. IMHO it's a bloody shame we still have to work=20 >> with a misconcept of over 25 years to start any OS (I'm not familiar=20 >> with the Mac but I presume it's equally oldfashioned). >> Joep > > > be careful: > precisely Apple is a step further than most Linux systems today: > they already use EFI, the next generation BIOS, see: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface > EFI even defines an enhanced partitioning concept called GPT. > > But I still fail to see, why I have to create any partition on my > disks if I have LVM instead. It should make partitions obsolete! > On the other hand I don't see neither Lilo nor Grub will provide > a solution without any DOS partition table, soon. As I refuse to turn > back booting from floppy disks, I currently think about booting from > a cheap USB Stick instead. It may hold my /boot system with an LVM > aware kernel and may even carry a small rescure system. > Dieter > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ > Dieter, I didn't know that of Apple. That's very interesting. I know there are=20 already for over a year talks about completely different kind of=20 bootstrap loader+ advanced programming tools such as EFI you mentioned=20 but until now no motherboards has appeared for Intel/AMD processors with=20 it. Your solution of booting from an USB stick is what I intend to do with=20 my firewall: a stand-alone memory-only system (I'm a little paranoid=20 with respect to security) running LEAF (the Bering-uclib variant) but=20 it's an idea for workstations as well as USB sticks become very cheap. Joep