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From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: USB devices fail unnecessarily on unpowered hubs
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:35:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <447F79BA.4090904@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6iX82-2UJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>

linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote:
> Many, most, perhaps all such devices don't take more power when they
> are "enabled". Everything is already running and sucking up maximum
> current when you plug it in! If the motherboard didn't smoke when
> the device was plugged in, you might just as well let the user use
> it! Perhaps a ** WARNING ** message somewhere, but by golly, they
> got it running or else you wouldn't be able to read its parameters.

Wrong.. USB devices are not allowed to draw more than some amount (100 
mA I think) of power before the host tells it that it is allowed to 
switch into full-power mode. Any device that doesn't do this doesn't 
comply with the USB specs. Therefore it is very possible to connect a 
device and discover that it can't be enabled.

-- 
Robert Hancock      Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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       reply	other threads:[~2006-06-01 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <6iS8y-35Z-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <6iWP5-2gj-71@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <6iX82-2UJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-01 23:35     ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2006-06-01 23:46       ` USB devices fail unnecessarily on unpowered hubs Randy.Dunlap
     [not found]   ` <6iYxg-53W-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <6j5oR-7Sw-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-02  2:39       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Robert Hancock
     [not found] <6kl8h-1Uf-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-07  0:51 ` Robert Hancock
2006-06-05 11:07 Lee Dowling
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-02 15:11 [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-06-02 19:49 ` David Liontooth
     [not found] <6iYGP-5hv-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <6iYQx-5Jc-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-01 23:37   ` Robert Hancock
2006-06-01  9:18 David Liontooth
2006-05-30 20:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-03  9:29   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-06-01 10:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 11:42   ` Daniel Drake
2006-06-01 14:58   ` Alan Stern
2006-06-01 15:09     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-01 15:23       ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-06-01 21:39         ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2006-06-01 15:53       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-06-01 17:24         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-01 16:57       ` Alan Stern
2006-06-01 16:59     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 17:08       ` Alan Stern
2006-06-01 17:34   ` Mark Lord
2006-06-01 17:47     ` Alan Stern

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