From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Goo GGooo <googgooo@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.17-rc6-mm2
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:56:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44931AFD.4070809@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606152335130.5498@g5.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> Actually, the really irritating thing is that we actually generate all
> these nice status updates, which just makes pulling and cloning a lot more
> comfortable, because you actually see what is going on, and what to
> expect.
>
> Except they only work over ssh, where we have a separate channel (for
> stderr), and with the native git protocol all that nice status work just
> gets flushed to /dev/null :(
>
> Dang. It's literally the most irritating part of the thing: the protocol
> itself is exactly the same whether you go over ssh:// or over git://, but
> that visual information about what is going on is missing, and it's
> surprisingly important from a usability standpoint.
>
Perhaps we shouldn't rely on stderr, and instead have a backchannel as part of the
protocol itself. After all, the protocol already does packetization, so all it needs is a
reliable way to pick out the error/status packets; we could even combine that with a
machine-readable code (like SMTP et al) that could get interpreted by the other side as
needed.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-16 20:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-15 3:40 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Goo GGooo
2006-06-16 1:14 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Goo GGooo
2006-06-16 2:46 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16 5:49 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Goo GGooo
2006-06-16 6:39 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16 20:56 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2006-06-16 22:52 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Junio C Hamano
2006-06-17 0:22 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16 22:44 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 bert hubert
2006-06-20 3:01 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Michal Ludvig
2006-06-20 3:22 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16 12:40 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Uwe Zeisberger
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2006-06-18 8:13 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Chuck Ebbert
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