From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Dave Olson <olson@unixfolk.com>,
ccb@acm.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>
Subject: Re: [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts (write_lock and NMI)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:27:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <449821EC.2080601@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44981164.3000406@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> And either way, spinlocks are still much more costly than rwlocks,
> because they still have that first exclusive request, who's
> effectiveness deteriorates under load. That you *also* have these
> follow on shared accesses (which will need to be invalidated somehow
> later anyway), doesn't make them better than read locks.
I shouldn't say much more costly.... Much more costly when looking
at the limit case (and we traditionally rather look at the common
case in Linux, and in those cases spinlocks _can_ be faster).
However in the limit, spinlocks scale O(N), while readlocks scale
O(1), where N is the number of CPUs trying to take the lock.
AFAIKS.
But if they're causing stability problems, I have no arguments
against converting them to spinlocks. It might even result in a
worldwide net saving of CPU cycles, for what that's worth ;)
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-20 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <fa.VT2rwoX1M/2O/aO5crhlRDNx4YA@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.Zp589GPrIISmAAheRowfRgZ1jgs@ifi.uio.no>
2006-06-20 5:35 ` [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts (write_lock and NMI) Dave Olson
2006-06-20 6:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20 6:53 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-20 7:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 8:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20 8:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20 10:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 13:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 13:28 ` update pci device id cckuo
2006-06-20 14:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 13:36 ` [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts (write_lock and NMI) Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 14:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 15:16 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 16:27 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-06-20 8:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 16:11 ` Dave Olson
2006-06-20 21:10 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-22 5:45 Dave Olson
2006-06-22 5:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-23 16:27 Dave Olson
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=449821EC.2080601@yahoo.com.au \
--to=nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au \
--cc=akpm@osdl.org \
--cc=arjan@infradead.org \
--cc=ccb@acm.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@elte.hu \
--cc=olson@unixfolk.com \
--cc=peter@chubb.wattle.id.au \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.