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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Tom Eastep <teastep@shorewall.net>
Cc: Netfilter Development Mailinglist
	<netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org>,
	Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>
Subject: Re: RFC: Disable defered bridge hooks by default
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:29:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44B4183E.7010905@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44B40B4E.6080206@shorewall.net>

Tom Eastep wrote:
> Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
>>But you can do your iptables matching, mark matching packets
>>and filter on the mark within ebtables.
> 
> 
> I was afraid that's what you were going to suggest. If Shorewall was an
> appliance that only supported a limited set of configurations, I could entertain
> that approach; as it is, I'm not sure.
> 
> I'm going to issue a warning to my users that Shorewall support for
> bridge/firewalls may be discontinued in the future. If in the next six months, I
> can come up with code that is clean enough to go forward with, I'll rescind the
> announcement.

That sounds overly dramatic to me.

> So that I understand the playing field, --physdev-out will no longer be
> supported out of the FORWARD and OUTPUT chains (all tables); is that correct?

For locally generated traffic (-o br0), yes. This feature is going to
be removed, but I think it might be more useful to gather some data
among your users who actually needs this. I did some google-research
myself, and I wasn't able to find more then a handful of examples
of people actually using it this way. I certainly would be interested
in this data, if it really is needed by a significant larger amount
than I thought I will consider migation strategies stronger than
before. So far I'm not convinced that this really will pose a problem.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-11 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-04  9:26 RFC: Disable defered bridge hooks by default Patrick McHardy
2006-07-04  9:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-08  0:36   ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-08  3:01     ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-10  9:56       ` Amin Azez
2006-07-11  8:28         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-11  9:33           ` Amin Azez
2006-07-11 20:34       ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-11 21:29         ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2006-07-12 22:41           ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13  7:35             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 14:11               ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13 14:45                 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 15:31                   ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-15 14:32                     ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-19 14:21                     ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-19 15:50                       ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-19 16:02                         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13  9:56             ` Amin Azez
2006-07-12  6:16       ` Philip Craig
2006-07-13  0:20         ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13  0:42           ` David Miller
2006-07-13  0:45             ` Tom Eastep
2006-07-13  9:45               ` Amin Azez
2006-07-13  7:31           ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13  7:46         ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13  8:12           ` Philip Craig
2006-07-13  8:36             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 14:11           ` Amin Azez
2006-07-13 14:50             ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 15:29               ` Amin Azez
2006-07-19 16:36                 ` Patrick McHardy
     [not found]                   ` <44BE624E.5080307@ufomechanic.net>
2006-07-19 17:15                     ` Patrick McHardy
     [not found] <W8195318669268441152182124@nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>
2006-07-06 10:49 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-07  3:37 ` Patrick McHardy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-07 10:17 bdschuym@pandora.be
2006-07-07 10:24 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-07-13 12:56 bdschuym@pandora.be
2006-07-13 14:38 ` Patrick McHardy

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