From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>
Cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] reiserfs: fix handling of device names with /'s in them
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:07:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44BBDFFC.70601@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44BBD942.3080908@suse.com>
Jeff Mahoney wrote:
> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
> >Jeff Mahoney wrote:
>
> >>Hans Reiser wrote:
> >>
> >>>I don't understand your patch and cannot support it as it is written.
> >>>Perhaps you can call me and explain it on the phone.
> >>
> >>I seriously can't tell if you're deliberately trying to be difficult or
> >>not. It's a simple "replace / with ! before sending the name to procfs."
> >>
> >>Reiserfs requests that a procfs directory called
> >>/proc/fs/reiserfs/<blockdev> be created. Some block devices contain
> >>slashes, so with cciss/c123 it attempts to create a directory called
> >>/proc/fs/reiserfs/cciss/c123, but cciss/ doesn't exist, shouldn't, and
> >>never will.
>
> >Why not check to see if it does not exist, and create it if not, as
> >needed, and skip the !'s....?
>
>
> 1) Because then the behavior of /proc/fs/reiserfs/ would be
> inconsistent. Devices that contain slashes end up being one level deeper
> than other devices, which is silly and a userspace visible change.
And you think translating / to ! is less work for user space?
> Tools
> that wish to parse the information would then need added complexity to
> traverse into the next level to reach that information.
>
> 2) The block-device-as-path-name-component behavior is already defined
> by sysfs (/sys/block), and it should be consistent.
Translate that as, "I won't recompile my brain no matter what you do to
make me."
You blindly copied how someone else in a hurry did it without a thought
to whether it was done right, and now you don't want to change it. You
should have asked me about it before coding it.
Replace block-device-as-path-name-component with
block-device-as-path-name-suffix, and everything is very consistent.
And elegant.
Jeff, you are a programmer, not an architect, and when you disregard
architects we end up with things like the performance disaster that is
V3 acls.
Replacing / with ! is hideous. Someone added a nifty elegance to block
device naming, and you are desecrating it.
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-17 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <6xQ4C-6NB-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <6xQea-6ZX-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-07-14 16:10 ` [PATCH] reiserfs: fix handling of device names with /'s in them Bodo Eggert
2006-07-14 17:50 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-16 7:12 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-16 15:56 ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2006-07-16 18:14 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-16 22:17 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 1:21 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 1:50 ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2006-07-17 3:02 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 3:17 ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2006-07-17 7:29 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 14:55 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 15:39 ` Carlos Carvalho
2006-07-17 16:05 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 18:21 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 18:19 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 18:38 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 19:07 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2006-07-17 19:59 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 21:03 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 22:26 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2006-07-18 0:26 ` Horst von Brand
2006-07-18 16:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-18 18:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-17 18:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-17 18:16 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 18:53 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 19:07 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 18:27 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 19:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-12 16:42 Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-12 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-07-12 17:02 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-13 0:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-13 3:51 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-13 4:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-13 7:34 ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-13 5:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
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