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From: "Mike D. Day" <ncmike@us.ibm.com>
To: Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Bryan D Payne <bdpayne@us.ibm.com>,
	Reiner Sailer <sailer@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][ACM] kernel enforcement of vbd policies via blkback driver
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:46:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44C7AA5A.3070700@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d11c610112f6dc4ee355f7090e4615df@cl.cam.ac.uk>

Keir Fraser wrote:
> 
> On 26 Jul 2006, at 14:25, Mike D. Day wrote:
> 
>>> The tools hook is not just a usability/conformity check. The check 
>>> ensures that the tools will not set up entries in xenstore that would 
>>> allow blkback to create a non-conformant vbd. So there is no way for 
>>> a guest to trick blkback into creating a non-conformant vbd: it can 
>>> only connect to vbds specified in its config file or added later via 
>>> the vbd-add xm hotplug command. The tools stack should perform its 
>>> compiance checks on both 'xm create' and 'xm vbd-add', and that 
>>> should be sufficient.
>>
>> Yes, but that relies on the tools being correct and invulnerable to 
>> attacks like buffer overflow. Further, it does not disallow an 
>> alternative tool from bypassing or corrupting the conformance and 
>> authorization policy. Any program with the ability to open a socket to 
>> xenstore can open the way. Allowing the checks within the hypervisor 
>> is much safer against these types of attacks or errors.
> 
> If an attacker has access to the control plane (essentially anything 
> with root privileges in domain0) what is to stop him from creating his 
> own domain, with security credentials allowing it to communicate with 
> domains A and B, and with its own proxy comms driver for circumventing 
> any Xen checks that are intended to prevent communication between A and B?

It's all about defense in depth. It shouldn't be possible for a 
privilege escalation on dom0 to automatically compromise all the running 
domains. There should be hypervisor-level access control that authorizes 
changes to the access policy of a running domU. With the ability to 
store domain configuration remotely (coming in xend) we can then prevent 
a privilege escalation and a restart from compromising user domains.

Mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-26 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2006-07-25  0:21 ` [PATCH][ACM] kernel enforcement of vbd policies via blkback driver Reiner Sailer
2006-07-25  9:53   ` Keir Fraser
2006-07-25 17:45     ` Bryan D Payne
2006-07-25 18:48       ` Steven Hand
2006-07-26 13:25     ` Mike D. Day
2006-07-26 13:49       ` Keir Fraser
2006-07-26 15:47         ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-26 17:46         ` Mike D. Day [this message]
2006-07-26 18:07           ` Keir Fraser
2006-07-26 18:24             ` Mike D. Day
2006-07-26 18:50               ` Andrew Warfield
2006-07-26 21:21                 ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-26 22:23                 ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-26 22:51                   ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-27  9:41                     ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-26 23:04                   ` Andrew Warfield
2006-07-27  1:40                     ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-27 15:37                       ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-27 16:26                         ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-27 16:36                           ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-27 16:58                             ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-27 17:06                               ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-27 17:19                                 ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-27 17:53                                   ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-27 18:38                                     ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-27 17:38                                 ` Reiner Sailer
2006-07-27 17:43                                   ` Harry Butterworth
2006-07-24 16:23 Bryan D. Payne
2006-07-24 17:28 ` Keir Fraser
2006-07-24 20:09   ` Bryan D Payne

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