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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
To: rpm@xenomai.org
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] Beginner's question / testsuite / latency
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:33:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44CD099F.9010507@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1154282619.4970.25.camel@domain.hid>

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Philippe Gerum wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 16:20 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> :|func        6   xnintr_clock_handler (__ipipe_dispatch_wired)
>>>> :|func        6   xnintr_irq_handler (xnintr_clock_handler)
>>>> :|func        7   xnpod_announce_tick (xnintr_irq_handler)
>>>> :|func        8+  xntimer_do_tick_aperiodic (xnpod_announce_tick)
>>>> :|func        9   xnthread_periodic_handler (xntimer_do_tick_aperiodic)
>>>> :|func       10   xnpod_resume_thread (xnthread_periodic_handler)
>>>> :|[21559]    11+  xnpod_resume_thread (xnthread_periodic_handler)
>>>> :|func       13+  xnthread_periodic_handler (xntimer_do_tick_aperiodic)
>> ...
>>
>>>> :|func      363+  xnthread_periodic_handler (xntimer_do_tick_aperiodic)
>> That are a lot of overruns. Haven't counted, but it should be one
>> xnthread_periodic_handler per missed 100 us period (20000 / 100 = 200!).
>> [BTW, I think we should handle even this failure scenario without
>> looping.
> 
> We need to loop in the aperiodic handler in order to catch timers that
> could have elapsed while processing the current tick. However,

No, that was not what I meant. I know that we need the timer loop. But I
was thinking of something like this for the tick handler's error path:

if (unlikely((timer.date += timer.interval) < now))
	timer.date = now + timer.interval -
		(now - timer.date) % timer.interval;

> xnpod_wait_thread_period() - over which rt_task_wait_period() is based -
> does not loop, but rather computes the actual count of overruns by
> substracting the current time from the deadline.

...but by looping for some scenarios instead of dividing for all. Why
optimising the slow path here?

> 
> Which brings us an interesting question: why does the aperiodic handler
> loop frenetically in the first place? I would be pretty interested in
> checking the TSC values returned by xnarch_get_cpu_tsc() while spinning
> inside this deadly loop...

You can already read those TSCs: each trace point got recorded with the
current TSC value, fresh from the hardware.

I rather think, also when looking at Julien's second trace, that we have
some issue with X in user-space here, probably in combination with weird
VIA hardware stalling IRQ delivery for a "few" microseconds. Let's see
if the irqbench gives similar results.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-30 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-20 21:17 [Xenomai-help] Beginner's question / testsuite / latency Julien Heyman
2006-07-20 21:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-07-22  9:52   ` Julien Heyman
2006-07-22 17:17     ` Jan Kiszka
2006-07-28 21:17       ` Julien Heyman
2006-07-28 21:32         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-07-30 17:29           ` Julien Heyman
2006-07-30 17:49             ` Philippe Gerum
2006-07-30 20:39             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-07-29 14:20         ` Jan Kiszka
2006-07-30 17:36           ` Julien Heyman
2006-07-30 18:03           ` Philippe Gerum
2006-07-30 19:33             ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2006-07-30 20:03               ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-07-30 22:00                 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-07-30 21:23               ` Philippe Gerum
2006-07-30 22:00                 ` Jan Kiszka
2006-07-31  9:57                   ` Philippe Gerum
2006-07-31 11:39                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-07-31 14:19                   ` Philippe Gerum
2006-07-31 20:49                     ` Julien Heyman
2006-08-01 13:13                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-08-01 13:38                         ` Philippe Gerum
2006-08-01 14:30                     ` Philippe Gerum
2006-08-01 14:45                       ` [Xenomai-core] [RFC] tame the watchdog (was: Beginner's question / testsuite / latency) Jan Kiszka
2006-08-02  8:52                         ` [Xenomai-core] " Philippe Gerum
2006-08-02 11:04                           ` [Xenomai-core] Re: [RFC] tame the watchdog Jan Kiszka
2006-07-21 13:25 ` [Xenomai-help] Beginner's question / testsuite / latency Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-07-22  9:58   ` Julien Heyman

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