From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, mingo@elte.hu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
sam@vilain.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvz.org,
efault@gmx.de, balbir@in.ibm.com, sekharan@us.ibm.com,
nagar@watson.ibm.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com, pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:20:04 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44D35794.2040003@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060803223650.423f2e6a.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew,
> ug, I didn't know this. Had I been there (sorry) I'd have disagreed with
> this whole strategy.
I wish you were here :/
> I thought the most recently posted CKRM core was a fine piece of code. It
> provides the machinery for grouping tasks together and the machinery for
> establishing and viewing those groupings via configfs, and other such
> common functionality. My 20-minute impression was that this code was an
> easy merge and it was just awaiting some useful controllers to come along.
the same thing does User BeanCounter patch.
The infrastructure is totally a separate question.
Moreover, as CKRM/UBC experience shows it is the most easiest code to agree on.
And as people agreed we need to speak about serious problems first,
not the interface one (at least, not at the moment when we have no working
resource controllers).
> And now we've dumped the good infrastructure and instead we've contentrated
> on the controller, wired up via some imaginative ab^H^Hreuse of the cpuset
> layer.
exactly. We have no workable controller.
So if there is no code we agreed on, whom is this infrastructure for?
> I wonder how many of the consensus-makers were familiar with the
> contemporary CKRM core?
I was familiar. And I can arise many arguable points in the CKRM infrastructure.
For example:
1. Should task-group be changeable after set/inherited once?
Are you planning to recalculate resources on group change?
e.g. shared memory or used kernel memory is hard to recalculate.
2. should task-group resource container manage all the resources as a whole?
e.g. in OpenVZ tasks can belong to different CPU and UBC containers.
It is more flexible and e.g. we used to put some vital kernel threads
to a separate CPU group to decrease delays in service.
3. I also don't understand why normal binary interface like system call is not used.
We have set_uid, sys_setrlimit and it works pretty good, does it?
4. do we want hierarchical grouping?
>> - Design of individual resource controllers like memory and cpu
>
>
> Right. We won't be controlling memory, numtasks, disk, network etc
> controllers via cpusets, will we?
I hope so :)
Thanks,
Kirill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-04 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-04 5:07 [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:09 ` [ RFC, PATCH 1/5 ] CPU controller - base changes Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 7:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:34 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:50 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-04 14:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:10 ` [ RFC, PATCH 2/5 ] CPU controller - Define group operations Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 23:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-08-04 5:11 ` [ RFC, PATCH 3/5 ] CPU controller - deal with movement of tasks Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:12 ` [ RFC, PATCH 4/5 ] CPU controller - deal with dont care groups Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:13 ` [ RFC, PATCH 5/5 ] CPU controller - interface with cpusets Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:36 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 5:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 9:49 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 11:41 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 15:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 16:03 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 17:02 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 18:27 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 19:11 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 19:24 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 7:19 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:14 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-08 7:17 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 17:50 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-07 7:25 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 14:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-07 16:33 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 18:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-07 19:00 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 19:46 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-08 14:19 ` memory resource accounting (was Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller) Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 14:57 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-08 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 13:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:08 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-09 1:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 17:34 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-09 4:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09 6:00 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-09 6:06 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09 6:56 ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-08 7:19 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:16 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:49 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 17:03 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 18:17 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07 7:23 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:57 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 5:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:02 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:20 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 6:31 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:37 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 6:49 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 6:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 7:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 19:10 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-04 6:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 7:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:16 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 14:20 ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-08-04 14:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04 15:29 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07 7:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 9:30 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 15:58 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-07 16:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 18:19 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-05 3:30 ` Nick Piggin
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