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From: Martin Ohlin <martin.ohlin@control.lth.se>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	balbir@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A nice CPU resource controller
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:35:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F6BB8A.7090001@control.lth.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157010140.18561.23.camel@Homer.simpson.net>

Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 06:53 +0000, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 11:07 +1000, Peter Williams wrote:
>>
>>> But your implication here is valid.  It is better to fiddle with the 
>>> dynamic priorities than with nice as this leaves nice for its primary 
>>> purpose of enabling the sysadmin to effect the allocation of CPU 
>>> resources based on external considerations.
>> I don't understand.  It _is_ the administrator fiddling with nice based
>> on external considerations.  It just steadies the administrator's hand.
> 
> When extended to groups, I see your point.  The admin would lose his
> ability to apportion bandwidth _within_ the group because he's already
> turned his only knob.  That is going to be just as much of a problem for
> other methods though, and is just a question of how much complexity you
> want to pay to achieve fine grained control.

I do not see the problem. Let's say I create a group of three tasks and 
give it 50% of the CPU bandwidth (perhaps by using the same nice value 
for all the tasks in this group). If I then want to apportion the 
bandwidth within the group as you say, then the same thing can be done 
by treating them as individual tasks.

Maybe I am wrong, but as I see it, if one wants to control on a group 
level, then the individual shares within the group are not that 
important. If the individual share is important, then it should be 
controlled on a per-task level. Please tell me if I am wrong.

/Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-31 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30 15:14 A nice CPU resource controller Martin Ohlin
2006-08-30 15:41 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-30 16:13   ` Martin Ohlin
2006-08-31  6:03     ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-31  1:07   ` Peter Williams
2006-08-31  6:17     ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-31 10:08       ` Peter Williams
2006-08-31 10:44       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-08-31  6:53     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-08-31  5:21       ` Peter Williams
2006-08-31  7:44         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-08-31  7:42       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-08-31 10:35         ` Martin Ohlin [this message]
2006-08-31 14:17           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-08-31 16:01           ` Chris Friesen
2006-08-31 19:14             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-08-31 23:52           ` Peter Williams
2006-08-31 10:21   ` Martin Ohlin
2006-08-31 11:13     ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-31 18:25 ` Peter Grandi

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