From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Stephen J. Bevan" <stephen@dino.dnsalias.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ProxyARP and IPSec
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:30:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F9BFC2.4050001@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17657.42254.455342.157858@localhost.localdomain>
Stephen J. Bevan wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin writes:
> > Fair enough. However, that does beg a question: is there any sane way
> > to create the pseudo-device model on top of the current model, as a
> > convenience layer? That way you could get the best of both.
>
> I assume you were using tunnel-mode IPsec and depending on exactly
> what you want to do you may be able to replace it with transport mode
> IPsec (or stay with tunnel if the extra 20 bytes of IP is not a
> problem) to handle host<->host IPsec and use gre or ipip for overlay
> network. That way you get a virtual device (gre or ipip) you can
> route to, run OSPF on, ... etc.
<sarcasm>
What I great idea. Now I just have to get every host I want to
interoperate with to support a nonstandard configuration. The scary
part is that if I motivate it with "Linux is too stupid to handle
standard tunnel-mode IPsec" I might actually get away with it.
</sarcasm>
Really... if saying our configuration is so screwed up that we have to
run a different over-wire protocol isn't an admission of failure I don't
know what is. I suspect this contributes to the growth in OpenVPN as well.
-hpa
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VGER BF report: U 0.500003
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-02 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-23 0:31 ProxyARP and IPSec H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-23 19:14 ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-23 22:14 ` David Miller
2006-08-23 23:18 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-24 1:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-24 1:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-24 2:20 ` Andy Gay
2006-08-24 4:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-24 12:50 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-26 4:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-02 15:36 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2006-09-02 17:30 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2006-09-02 20:54 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2006-09-05 5:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-04 22:27 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-05 5:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-05 9:05 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 20:36 ` David Miller
2006-09-23 4:22 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2006-09-06 2:25 ` Stephen J. Bevan
2006-08-24 10:50 ` Thomas Graf
2006-09-07 22:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-08 7:37 ` Thomas Graf
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