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From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
To: Chris Jefferson <chris@bubblescope.net>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Allocated large blocks of memory on 64 bit linux.
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:20:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45113200.3040107@argo.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5cc6b04e0609200428ja52fa8dl5246488f64d794cb@mail.gmail.com>

Chris Jefferson wrote:
>
> I apologise for this slightly off-topic message, but I believe it can
> best be answered here, and hope the question may be interesting.
>
> Many libraries have some kind of dynamically sized container (for
> example C++'s std::vector). When the container is full a new block of
> memory, typically double the original size, is allocated and the old
> data copied across.
>
> On a 64 bit architecture, where the memory space is massive, it seems
> at first glance a sensible thing to do might be to first make a buffer
> of size 4k, and then when this fills up, just straight to something
> huge, like 1MB or even 1GB, as the memory space is effectively
> infinate compared to the physical memory. Obvious most of this buffer
> may never be written to, as the object never grows large enough to
> fill it.
>
> What is the overhead of allocating memory which is never used? Is this
>

A 1MB virtual area which has just one page instantiated has (amortized) 
2KB cost in page tables, while a similar 1GB mapping has 8KB cost. 
That's a 50%-200% overhead which is quite bad.  Also cache line usage is 
worse since each pte needs a full cache line (two for the 1GB version) now.

In addition, the virtual address space is not infinite. On x86-64, 
userspace has 47 bits = 128 TB, enough for 128K of these 1G mappings, so 
your program would exhaust it after allocating 128,000 buffers, which is 
less than a gigabyte of physical RAM.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


      reply	other threads:[~2006-09-20 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-20 11:28 Allocated large blocks of memory on 64 bit linux Chris Jefferson
2006-09-20 12:20 ` Avi Kivity [this message]

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