From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from outbound2-blu-R.bigfish.com (outbound-blu.frontbridge.com [65.55.251.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.bigfish.com", Issuer "*.bigfish.com" (not verified)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD25567DBA for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 03:59:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4523EF39.50107@am.sony.com> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:28:25 -0700 From: Tim Bird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Malek Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] Add MPC8360EMDS board support References: <20060927155626.4d5ca19c@vitb.ru.mvista.com> <4879B0C6C249214CBE7AB04453F84E4D19D865@zch01exm20.fsl.freescale.net> <20060927165556.04c8d5d7@vitb.ru.mvista.com> <20060927112201.293fef44@localhost.localdomain> <17699.769.632098.479906@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <2867EA41-5135-43F7-9873-044C617EAC1B@embeddedalley.com> In-Reply-To: <2867EA41-5135-43F7-9873-044C617EAC1B@embeddedalley.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Olof Johansson , linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Dan Malek wrote: > I'm not against using the device tree (or platform data > or #defines) when it's appropriate to do so. I think our > obsession to represent everything there is what is > creating the complexity. If a #define in a board > specific port file makes sense, then just do that, > even if it is a BSCR address. The device tree just > seems like the new toy that everyone wants to play > with, and we are forgetting that the old fashioned way > of just writing some C code may be the way > to implement what we need. I'd like to "second" a lot of what Dan is saying. Linux increasingly drifts away from simple, adequate solutions (that admittedly require a bit of embedded developer elbow grease), towards these types of "grand unification" schemes, which actually interfere with goals in the embedded space. ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics =============================