From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sander Sweers Subject: Re: Hans Reiser arrested... Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:02:34 +0200 Message-ID: <452D4DDA.5030801@Gmail.com> References: <452C5D8D.3030605@netvigator.com> <452D35DE.4040307@ultraviolet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <452D35DE.4040307@ultraviolet.org> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Tracy R Reed Cc: Christopher Chan , reiserfs-list@namesys.com Tracy R Reed wrote: > Sander Sweers wrote: >> I would instead hope Nina is found and both can be reunited with their >> kids. The question if reiser4 will continue is IMHO a bit insensitive >> when compared to the situation they are in. > > I understand your temptation to take this position and engage in a > competition of "who can be the most sensitive" and accuse anyone who > actually talks about software of insensitivity but most of us have > businesses to run and we depend on reiserfs. We can't do anything about > Hans or Nina. Not a competition and I only wanted to bring up the human aspect of the situation. And it was also not meant as an accusations. I understand this may have sounded like it was but it was not. So sorry Christopher if I made you feel I was accusing you. Please continue the technical discussion but as David said: "I want to hear from Hans. We can leave the gossiping to Slashdot; I'd rather not talk behind his back, or try to guess what he wants." > We can do something about his legacy which is the software > and I think that is exactly what we should be doing in a time like this. > I don't want to see all of his hard and brilliant work go for nothing. > Without money I doubt we can count on the guys from Russia for anything. Sorry but did he die or get convicted? No but people are a 1000 steps ahead of the current situation.So before speaking about his legacy and/or how to continue, let things take it's course and see where it leads. > Is there anyone else intimately familiar with the codebase who could > take reiser4 the rest of the way to the finish line? Let's not let this > turn into an example to be used by the proprietary software people > pointing to the dangers of FOSS which is surely what will happen if > reiserfs is somehow left to stagnate. It would actually be a good example in favor of FOSS. Proprietary software usually disappear with the company, FOSS does not. But this is totally off-topic. > I hope this is all a > misunderstanding and she turns up and Hans continues to develop reiserfs > for many years to come. But it would be irresponsible not to initiate a > contingency plan. We can be sure that places that rely on reiserfs such > as SuSe are already doing so. We are software people, not lawyers, so > let's have a conversation about the software. We are human being first (and not claiming other people are not !) and *my* first thought is with Hans, Nina and especially with their kids. As they will get the biggest hit from the whole situation regardless of what happens next. I feel it is inappropriate to talk about these things while nothing is certain yet.IF and only IF it turns out badly in the end a discussion can be started about what will happen with reiser4. Until then this subject should not be discussed IMHO. I tried to be very mild and objective in my response and if it was not, my apologies. Best Sander PS: I will not debate this any further. I have made clear how I feel about this and what my opinion is.