From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
david@kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
yosry.ahmed@linux.dev, imran.f.khan@oracle.com,
kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com, axelrasmussen@google.com,
yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
chenridong@huaweicloud.com, mkoutny@suse.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hamzamahfooz@linux.microsoft.com,
apais@linux.microsoft.com, lance.yang@linux.dev,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting state_local
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:22:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4535d53c-68aa-4c3d-b95e-6fbafdb83881@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXtRWdwwmi7G-Hlg@hyeyoo>
On 1/29/26 8:23 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 04:50:39PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/26 10:10 AM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 11:34:53AM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/18/26 11:20 AM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 07:32:55PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To resolve the dying memcg issue, we need to reparent LRU folios of child
>>>>>> memcg to its parent memcg. The following counts are all non-hierarchical
>>>>>> and need to be reparented to prevent the counts of parent memcg overflow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. memcg->vmstats->state_local[i]
>>>>>> 2. pn->lruvec_stats->state_local[i]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This commit implements the specific function, which will be used during
>>>>>> the reparenting process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please add more explanation which was discussed in the email chain at
>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/5dsb6q2r4xsi24kk5gcnckljuvgvvp6nwifwvc4wuho5hsifeg@5ukg2dq6ini5/
>>>>
>>>> OK, will do.
>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
>>>>>> index 70583394f421f..7aa32b97c9f17 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
>>>>>> @@ -225,6 +225,28 @@ static inline struct obj_cgroup *__memcg_reparent_objcgs(struct mem_cgroup *memc
>>>>>> return objcg;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG_V1
>>>>>> +static void __mem_cgroup_flush_stats(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, bool force);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static inline void reparent_state_local(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, struct mem_cgroup *parent)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + if (cgroup_subsys_on_dfl(memory_cgrp_subsys))
>>>>>> + return;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + synchronize_rcu();
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm synchrinuze_rcu() is a heavy hammer here. Also you would need rcu
>>>>> read lock in mod_memcg_state() & mod_memcg_lruvec_state() for this
>>>>> synchronize_rcu().
>>>>
>>>> Since these two functions require memcg or lruvec, they are already
>>>> within the critical section of the RCU lock.
>>>
>>> What happens if someone grabbed a refcount and then release the rcu read
>>> lock before percpu refkill and then call mod_memcg[_lruvec]_state()?
>>>
>>> In this case, can we end up reparenting in the middle of non-hierarchical
>>> stat update because they don't have RCU grace period?
>>>
>>> Something like
>>>
>>> T1 T2
>>>
>>> - rcu_read_lock()
>>> - get memcg refcnt
>>> - rcu_read_unlock()
>>>
>>> - call mod_memcg_state()
>>> - CSS_IS_DYING is not set
>>> - Set CSS_IS_DYING
>>> - Trigger percpu refkill
>>>
>>> - Trigger offline_css()
>>> -> reparent non-hierarchical - update non-hierarchical stats
>>> stats
>>> - put memcg refcount
>>
>> Good catch, I think you are right.
>>
>> The rcu lock should be added to mod_memcg_state() and
>> mod_memcg_lruvec_state().
>
> Thanks for confirming!
>
> Because it's quite confusing, let me ask few more questions...
>
> Q1. Yosry mentioned [1] [2] that stat updates should be done in the same
> RCU section that is used to grab a refcount of the cgroup.
>
> But I don't think your work is relying on that. Instead, I guess, it's
> relying on the CSS_DYING check from reader side to determine whether it
Only relying the CSS_DYING check is insufficient. Otherwise, the
following race may occur:
T1 T2
memcg_is_dying is false
Set CSS_IS_DYING
reparent non-hierarchical update non-hierarchical stats for child
So IIUC we should add rcu lock, then:
T1 T2
rcu_read_lock
memcg_is_dying is false
Set CSS_IS_DYING
update non-hierarchical stats for child
rcu_read_unlock
synchronize_rcu or rcu work
--> reparent non-hierarchical
> should update stats of the child or parent memcg, right?
>
> -> That being said, when rcu_read_lock() is called _after_ stats are
> reparented, the reader must observe that the CSS_DYING flag is set.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/utl6esq7jz5e4f7kwgrpwdjc2rm3yi33ljb6xkm5nxzufa4o7s@hblq2piu3vnz
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ebdhvcwygvnfejai5azhg3sjudsjorwmlcvmzadpkhexoeq3tb@5gj5y2exdhpn
>
> Q2. When a reader checks CSS_DYING flag, how is the flag change
> guaranteed to be visible to the reader without any lock, memory barrier,
> or atomic ops involved?
The main situation requiring CSS_DYING check is as follow:
T1 T2
Set CSS_IS_DYING
synchronize_rcu or rcu work
--> reparent non-hierarchical
rcu_read_lock()
memcg_is_dying is true
update non-hierarchical stats for parent
Referring to the "Memory-Barrier Guarantees" section in [1],
synchronize_rcu() can guarantee that T2 can see CSS_IS_DYING. Right?
[1].
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.rst
Thanks,
Qi
>
> As Shakeel mentioned elsewhere, I hope some explanations for correctness
> to be included in the commit message :)
>
>> I will update to v4 as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> I'll wait for that and will review carefully to make sure it's correct ;)
>
>> Thanks,
>> Qi
>>
>>>>> Hmm instead of synchronize_rcu() here, we can use queue_rcu_work() in
>>>>> css_killed_ref_fn(). It would be as simple as the following:
>>>>
>>>> It does look much simpler, will do.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Qi
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-30 7:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-14 11:26 [PATCH v3 00/30] Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] mm: memcontrol: remove dead code of checking parent memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] mm: workingset: use folio_lruvec() in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] mm: rename unlock_page_lruvec_irq and its variants Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for the refactoring the move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 9:10 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-16 9:14 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 11:31 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] mm: memcontrol: allocate object cgroup for non-kmem case Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] mm: memcontrol: return root object cgroup for root memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 12:53 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in get_mem_cgroup_from_folio() Qi Zheng
2026-01-17 20:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-18 0:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 3:20 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-19 8:53 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] buffer: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_alloc_buffers() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] writeback: prevent memory cgroup release in writeback module Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in count_memcg_folio_events() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] mm: page_io: prevent memory cgroup release in page_io module Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] mm: migrate: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_migrate_mapping() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] mm: mglru: prevent memory cgroup release in mglru Qi Zheng
2026-01-17 22:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 9:25 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in mem_cgroup_swap_full() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] mm: workingset: prevent memory cgroup release in lru_gen_eviction() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] mm: thp: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 9:15 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] mm: zswap: prevent memory cgroup release in zswap_compress() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 9:18 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-20 7:47 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2026-01-17 23:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] mm: zswap: prevent lruvec release in zswap_folio_swapin() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] mm: swap: prevent lruvec release in lru_gen_clear_refs() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_activation() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] mm: do not open-code lruvec lock Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 9:26 ` Baoquan He
2026-01-15 9:31 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 9:20 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-17 23:08 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-20 7:58 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting LRU pages for " Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 12:34 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-16 8:16 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 10:41 ` Philip Li
2026-01-16 11:06 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 12:44 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-16 6:29 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-16 9:43 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-16 9:50 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18 0:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 3:44 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-20 15:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-18 0:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-20 8:21 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-20 11:51 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-20 12:50 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting traditional LRU folios Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 9:49 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-18 1:11 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 3:24 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v3 26/30 fix] mm: mglru: do not call update_lru_size() during reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-21 3:53 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-21 4:19 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-21 11:21 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18 3:25 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Shakeel Butt
2026-01-18 3:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 3:39 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] mm: memcontrol: refactor memcg_reparent_objcgs() Qi Zheng
2026-01-18 2:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-22 9:04 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-22 9:13 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting state_local Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 10:41 ` [PATCH v3 28/30 fix 1/2] mm: memcontrol: fix lruvec_stats->state_local reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 10:41 ` [PATCH v3 28/30 fix 2/2] mm: memcontrol: change state_locals to atomic_long_t type Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 17:47 ` [PATCH v3 28/30 fix 1/2] mm: memcontrol: fix lruvec_stats->state_local reparenting Andrew Morton
2026-01-16 3:27 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18 3:22 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 3:36 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-20 7:19 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-20 18:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-21 3:43 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-21 8:20 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-21 11:25 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting state_local Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19 3:34 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-29 2:10 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-29 8:50 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-29 12:23 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-30 7:22 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2026-02-02 3:15 ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] mm: memcontrol: eliminate the problem of dying memory cgroup for LRU folios Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] mm: lru: add VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO to lru maintenance helpers Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 17:07 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup syzbot ci
2026-01-15 3:47 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 17:58 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] " Andrew Morton
2026-01-15 3:52 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-15 6:05 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 12:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-16 0:43 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-16 8:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-16 12:25 ` Michal Hocko
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