From: Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: dev@openvz.org, vatsa@in.ibm.com, sekharan@us.ibm.com,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, haveblue@us.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pj@sgi.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, rohitseth@google.com
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] RFC: Memory Controller
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:35:14 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4548472A.50608@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830610310922p61913cdaqb441a2cb718420a9@mail.gmail.com>
Paul Menage wrote:
> On 10/31/06, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>> I am still a little concerned about how limit size changes will be implemented.
>> Will the cpuset "mems" field change to reflect the changed limits?
>
> That's how we've been doing it - increasing limits is easy, shrinking
> them is harder ...
>
>>> Page cache control is actually more essential that RSS control, in our
>>> experience - it's pretty easy to track RSS values from userspace, and
>>> react reasonably quickly to kill things that go over their limit, but
>>> determining page cache usage (i.e. determining which job on the system
>>> is flooding the page cache with dirty buffers) is pretty much
>>> impossible currently.
>>>
>> Hmm... interesting. Why do you think its impossible, what are the kinds of
>> issues you've run into?
>>
>
> Issues such as:
>
> - determining from userspace how much of the page cache is really
> "free" memory that can be given out to new jobs without impacting the
> performance of existing jobs
>
> - determining which job on the system is flooding the page cache with
> dirty buffers
>
> - accounting the active pagecache usage of a job as part of its memory
> footprint (if a process is only 1MB large but is seeking randomly
> through a 1GB file, treating it as only using/needing 1MB isn't
> practical).
>
> Paul
>
Thanks for the info!
I thought this would be hard to do in general, but with a page -->
container mapping that will come as a result of the memory controller,
will it still be that hard?
I'll dig deeper.
--
Balbir Singh,
Linux Technology Center,
IBM Software Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-01 7:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-30 10:33 [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-30 10:34 ` RFC: Memory Controller Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 11:04 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 13:27 ` [ckrm-tech] " Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:14 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 17:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 17:22 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 18:16 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-11-01 7:05 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2006-11-01 7:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 7:44 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-01 12:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-02 0:09 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 0:39 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 15:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 17:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 8:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 8:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:19 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 9:19 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 9:25 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:25 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:10 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:10 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-31 9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-31 10:36 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:36 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 8:48 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:54 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:54 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 11:15 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 11:15 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 12:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 12:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 14:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 14:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:54 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 16:54 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 6:00 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 6:00 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 8:05 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 8:05 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2006-10-31 17:04 ` Dave Hansen
2006-11-01 7:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 18:20 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 21:38 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 10:43 ` [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 14:19 ` [ckrm-tech] " Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 14:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 17:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-30 17:16 ` Dave McCracken
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:41 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 10:51 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 11:06 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 12:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 12:28 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 11:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 12:04 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 12:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 17:53 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 20:47 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:56 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 21:03 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 11:53 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-31 13:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-31 16:46 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 17:25 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 23:37 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-06 12:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-06 20:23 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 13:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-07 18:41 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 19:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 19:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 19:24 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 19:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 20:00 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 20:02 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 2:47 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-07 20:34 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 20:41 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 21:50 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 22:21 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-08 3:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 4:15 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-08 4:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 11:22 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 5:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-08 5:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-09 5:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-08 19:25 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-09 3:54 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-10 14:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 4:39 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 9:50 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-01 9:58 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 15:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 16:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 21:05 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 23:43 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 18:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 17:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 21:18 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-01 23:01 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-11-02 0:31 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 8:34 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-11-01 23:48 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 3:28 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-02 7:40 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 14:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 14:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 14:38 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 15:18 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 15:26 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 0:26 ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-31 8:34 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:33 ` Chris Friesen
2006-10-30 18:01 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 8:31 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:34 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 16:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 7:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 8:01 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 16:04 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 17:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 17:50 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-02 8:42 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-03 1:29 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 9:30 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 9:53 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 22:23 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 18:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 22:19 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 23:50 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 0:30 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 5:33 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-02 9:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-02 11:26 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 13:04 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-03 1:29 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-02 8:52 ` Pavel Emelianov
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