From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Abhinav Srivastava <abhinavs_iitkgp@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: How to intercept memory operation in Xen
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:34:20 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4558BAAC.7000006@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061113172557.34567.qmail@web7910.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Abhinav Srivastava wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am new to the Xen and currently using Xen 3.0.3. My goal is to provide
> memory logging facility in Dom0. If any guest domain (DomU) application
> tries to access any memory area, I would like to know in dom0 what area
> they are accessing. So that if any user space applications try to access
> kernel memory then i can see in dom0 and using my detection system, i
> can say that it is illegal memory request as user space applications are
> not allowed to use kernel memory. I have three Qs related to this:
You would have a much easier time just modifying the Linux kernel. Xen
isn't going to help you much here.
> 1) Is this doable?
Exceptions do go through the hypervisor however page faults are not
usually a sign of something bad happening. Linux, for instance, uses
copy-on-write and on-demand paging which means in many circumstances,
page faults are not a sign of misuse of memory.
I don't think there's any generic way of identifying whether a page
fault is a "good" page fault or a "bad" page fault at the hypervisor
level. The hypervisor merely forwards the fault to the guest and the
guest then decides what action to take (update a page table, kill a
process, etc.). To complicate matters further, some apps catch SEGV and
handle it themselves. That makes the potential recovery behavior
totally non-deterministic. You could potentially try to track
heuristically whether a PTE update occurs after a page fault at the
hypervisor level but that would be easily defeatable (which means it
isn't useful for an IDS system). At the end of the day, you really have
to modify the domU kernel.
You should look at some of the bug reporting tools in Linux. They seem
to be doing something to hook all process crashes. Ubuntu has a new bug
crash tool that you could probably start with. This would put you in
domU userspace though...
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> 2) If yes, how should I start with? Do i need to intercept hypercalls?
> If yes, how to do this?
>
> 3) To intercept memory operation, do i need to change in the Xen code?
> If yes, it would be great if you could point me exact file where changes
> are to be made.
>
> 4) Can it be done using some application or IDS in dom0 with some hooks
> without changing the Xen code?
>
> I would really appreciate your help.
>
> Thanks,
> Abhi
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-13 18:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-13 17:25 How to intercept memory operation in Xen Abhinav Srivastava
2006-11-13 18:08 ` Petersson, Mats
2006-11-13 18:34 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2006-11-13 20:18 ` Abhinav Srivastava
2006-11-14 11:42 ` Petersson, Mats
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