From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.176.0/21 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys Subject: Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:52:17 +0100 Message-ID: <455D07C1.1090207@xs4all.nl> References: <87k61yt1x2.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <455A1137.8030301@shadowen.org> <87hcx1u934.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <87bqn9u43s.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <7vbqn9y6w6.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <7v3b8ltq7r.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <455BBCE9.4050503@xs4all.nl> <455CFCBD.8040901@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061107) In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkry5-0003Gg-6q for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:52:33 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1424823AbWKQAwZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:52:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1424834AbWKQAwZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:52:25 -0500 Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.30]:42765 "EHLO smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1424823AbWKQAwY (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:52:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.123.187] (muurbloem.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kAH0qDPH057142; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:52:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) To: Linus Torvalds Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds escreveu: > The fact that we can do "git clone" on the _receiving_ side is an > assymmetry, but it's not gratutous: when receiving we don't need any extra > permissions or setup to create a new archive. In contrast, when sending, > you do have to have that "get permission to create new archive" phase. > >> - pull = merge + fetch, but no command for merge + throw > > Again, this is not gratuitous, and the reason is very similar: when you > pull, you're pulling into something that _you_ control and _you_ have >But "push" and "pull" _fundamentally_ aren't symmetric operations, and you >simply cannot possibly make them symmetric. Point taken; thank you. In that case, we're full circle with the command naming issues. Push and pull are fundamentally asymmetric operations, but then a consistent UI would dictate that they wouldn't be named symmetrically, as they are now. --