From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a".
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:44:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <456FEB53.7080703@op5.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fyc0u56z.wl%cworth@cworth.org>
Carl Worth wrote:
>
> See? Git _is_ harder to learn, and a user really cannot learn it
> without being careful about the index right from the very beginning.
>
I'm not so sure about that. I came from CVS / SVN, although I've fiddled
quite a bit with other scm's as well. The two-step commit process of git
didn't terrify me at all, and I had used git at least a month before I
joined the mailing-list and found out that there's this thing called an
"index". I knew about it before, since back then (June or July 2005)
there was only git-update-index to mark things to commit. I just didn't
worry about it but expected the scm to tell me if I was about to break
something horribly (which it often but not always did).
I think the main thing people are having difficulties with when it comes
to git is that it doesn't do things like other SCM's do it. Imo this is
a good thing, because it allows git to be more powerful than other
SCM's. Otoh it forces users migrating from
darcs/hg/monotone/perforce/whatever to git actually read the
documentation (and quite a lot of it), while hg -> bzr migrators use
pretty much the same commands for pretty much the same actions. This
makes users accustomed to not reading docs / trying things out before
attempting Real Work(tm), which breaks down horribly when user
expectations doesn't match reality. The simplest and usually most
effective solution is to meet the users half-way, and tell them early on
that this power comes at the cost of having to read the documentation
and do the tutorials.
--
Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se
OP5 AB www.op5.se
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-01 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-27 21:31 [PATCH/RFC] "init-db" can really be just "init" Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-27 22:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-27 22:40 ` Hyphens and hiding core commands (was: "init-db" can really be just "init") Carl Worth
2006-11-27 23:59 ` Hyphens and hiding core commands Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 0:23 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-28 0:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 1:35 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-28 2:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 5:40 ` Theodore Tso
2006-11-28 9:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 7:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-28 6:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a" Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 10:26 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-28 13:00 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2006-11-28 13:23 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-28 18:18 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-29 3:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 4:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-29 7:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 18:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-29 18:18 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-29 19:12 ` Steven Grimm
2006-11-29 19:30 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-29 18:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 19:09 ` Steven Grimm
2006-11-29 20:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-29 20:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 21:50 ` xdl_merge(), was " Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 5:24 ` Seth Falcon
2006-11-29 23:37 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-29 23:53 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 1:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 1:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 1:58 ` Steven Grimm
2006-11-30 2:04 ` Sam Vilain
2006-11-30 2:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 2:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 11:09 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-11-30 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 16:40 ` Theodore Tso
2006-11-30 17:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 17:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 18:38 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 18:47 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 19:04 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 8:44 ` Andreas Ericsson [this message]
2006-12-01 9:31 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2006-11-30 18:51 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 20:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 21:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 21:37 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 21:41 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-11-30 21:50 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 21:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 22:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 22:07 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2006-11-30 22:25 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 22:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 22:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 22:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-01 8:34 ` Andy Parkins
2006-12-01 23:33 ` Alan Chandler
2006-11-30 21:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 22:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 23:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 0:13 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 1:10 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 1:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 2:08 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 3:40 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 3:52 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-01 0:24 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4. 64.0611301520370.3513@woody.osdl.org>
2006-12-01 0:06 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-01 1:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-12-01 8:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-12-01 23:36 ` Alan Chandler
[not found] ` <7vac28h898.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>
2006-11-30 22:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 22:55 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 21:33 ` Robert Shearman
2006-11-30 21:41 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-01 18:27 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-12-02 7:48 ` Marco Costalba
2006-11-30 18:09 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 0:52 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-11-30 12:23 ` Salikh Zakirov
2006-11-30 13:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 15:15 ` Seth Falcon
2006-11-30 15:50 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2006-11-30 16:03 ` Seth Falcon
2006-11-30 16:05 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 17:13 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-28 7:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] git-commit: prepare to make '-a' behaviour the default Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 7:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] git-commit: make '-a' " Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 9:09 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-27 23:36 ` [PATCH/RFC] "init-db" can really be just "init" Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-28 10:45 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
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