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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Kumar Gala <galak@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: consolidate mpc83xx platform files
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:41:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <457F300F.7000203@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E8320867-EDC5-42F9-81EE-E66B6D216ADA@kernel.crashing.org>

Kumar Gala wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Scott Wood wrote:
>> They *may* not want to (and they certainly shouldn't be forced to),  but
>> some may not want to define a new ppc_md (or modify a probe function)
>> for every new board if all of the differences are encapsulated in the
>> device tree.  I thought one of the main goals of having a device  tree is
>> that if it's done right, the kernel need not know about every single
>> model of board, just the different components that a device tree can
>> specify.
> 
> That's true, and if that's the case you'd just set your "model" to  
> match an existing supported ppc_md.

Having an 831x explicitly claim to be an 834x is just a tad icky...

>> If a board has truly board-specific logic that needs custom code in  the
>> kernel itself (rather than the bootloader), then it can go in as a
>> driver with a device tree node (this should be done with the BCSR  stuff
>> where needed).
> 
> This is not always the case, there are times when you have board  
> specific modifications you make in the early kernel code.

Sure -- I'm not proposing doing away with board-specific machine 
descriptions entirely, just reducing the circumstances where they're 
required.

> True, but I dont see what the desire is to create a 'generic' 83xx  
> support.  Who gets to define what is considered 'generic'?  

"Generic" is any board that has needs that aren't expressed in the 
device tree.

> I'm all for refactoring code so my board code  
> is simpler, but at the end of the day I know there are people that  are 
> going to need board specific code for their environments.

And an 83xx-generic machine description does not stop them from doing 
so.  "Generic" does not mean "universal".  It means "there's nothing 
special about this board".  If you need board-specific code in the 
kernel, then don't label it generic.

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-12 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-09  1:07 [PATCH] powerpc: consolidate mpc83xx platform files Kim Phillips
2006-12-09  7:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-11  3:41   ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-11 21:51     ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-11 22:08       ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12  2:10         ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12  2:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12  2:31             ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 21:30             ` Scott Wood
2006-12-12 21:47               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12 22:06                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 22:24                   ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 22:28                     ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 22:38                       ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 22:44                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12 22:51                           ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 22:40                       ` Scott Wood
2006-12-13  0:23                         ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-13  5:25                           ` Geoff Thorpe
2006-12-13  6:07                             ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-13 17:48                               ` Geoff Thorpe
2006-12-13 18:21                               ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-13 21:13                               ` Dan Malek
2006-12-12 22:03               ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 22:41                 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2006-12-12 22:46                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13  0:20                   ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-18  5:17       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-12-18 17:04         ` Kumar Gala
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-12 17:36 Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 18:03 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-14  1:04 Kim Phillips
2006-12-15 16:09 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-15 17:23   ` Dan Malek
2006-12-18 21:22     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-15 17:59   ` Olof Johansson
2006-12-16  1:31     ` Stephen Rothwell
2006-12-18 21:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-18 21:19   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-18 14:44 Joakim Tjernlund
2006-12-18 16:51 ` Olof Johansson
2006-12-19 21:30 Kim Phillips
2006-12-19 22:19 ` Ben Warren

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