From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Gunik-0002T2-7c for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:21:46 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gunii-0002Ry-Rm for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:21:44 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gunih-0002Qb-5P for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:21:44 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gunig-0002Q8-Np for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:21:42 -0500 Received: from [193.144.10.29] (helo=relay1.udl.es) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gunig-0003lB-Az for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:21:42 -0500 Received: from jupiter.udl.net (jupiter.udl.net [172.16.2.2]) by relay1.udl.es (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBEALPxW032399 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:21:31 +0100 Received: from [172.16.2.140] (eup34_11 [172.16.2.140]) by jupiter.udl.net (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id kBEA8tq24677 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:08:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <458122F7.1040102@raulete.net> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:09:59 +0100 From: adrian15 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grub-devel@gnu.org References: <200612132236.kBDMaCNX019752@dell01.dinaserver.com> In-Reply-To: <200612132236.kBDMaCNX019752@dell01.dinaserver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (relay1.udl.es [10.69.4.19]); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:21:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: disk vs partition numbering X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:21:45 -0000 > On Wednesday 13 December 2006 09:59, adrian15 wrote: >> > For them their first hard disk (Who is going to have a zero-hard disk in >> > the real world. It has no sense) is C:, but you could name it 1. >> > And when they partition their hard disk they suppose that the first cut >> > it is the 1 not the 0. > > And you could name it 0. This is in computing world... but if you go to a building you go to the ground floor or to the 1st floor but you not do go to the 0th floor! > >> > About your arguments... mine are: Grub2 users are not unix OS or its >> > sysadmins but Windows ones. Grub2 should address to this kind of users >> > in my opinnion. > > Hmm... I don't agree that most users are Windows users. AFAIK, most Windows > users stick to the default selector (ntldr), and does not try to see how GRUB > works at all. When I talked about Windows users I was talking about Windows users that do not stick the Windows but the ones that migrates, and thus dual boot with Gnu/Linux. > > But you are comparing apples with oranges here. What Windows does is to count > only partitions for hard disks and count only disk for floppy disks and > CD/DVD drives. C: is not a disk. It is a partition that Windows can recognize > as a primary partition. D: is a second partition, regardless of whether it is > in the same disk as C: or in next disk, or in next next disk. So you cannot > compare GRUB's scheme with Windows' simply. Yes. You're right. So.. please compare the building floors scheme (what everyone understands) with hard disks and partitions. > > Personally, I think it is really unfortunate that the way of Windows is of no > use. Really no use. If Windows were not that crap, everybody else could > follow the same way, and everybody would be quite happy. I am of the same opinnion. :) I suppose the MS-DOS original developer (that one that Bill bought the OS with little money) thought that letters were less scary for identifying devices. > > Okuji adrian15