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From: Peter Surda <surda@shurdix.com>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Interesting article about punching holes in firewalls...
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:10:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <458A337B.1060400@shurdix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45860240.2040102@riverviewtech.net>

Grant Taylor schrieb:
> I personally have known that using "-m state --state 
> ESTABLISHED,RELATED" was not the most secure thing to use for returning 
> traffic.
Actually, what the described method accomplishes is not defeating the 
"firewall" part, but the "NAT" part. If one of the hosts was not behind 
a NAT, the traffic would flow even with ESTABLISHED,RELATED, because it 
belongs to active "connection".

>  Namely this will allow you to make a valid connection to a web 
> server, say to retrieve a picture.  Then said web server could send 
> malicious traffic back to your computer and pass through your firewall. 
Please note it does not allow you to create a new connection, just use 
POTENTIAL connections that wouldn't work due to NAT.

> Grant. . . .
Yours sincerely,
Peter

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-21  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-18  2:51 [LARTC] Interesting article about punching holes in firewalls Grant Taylor
2006-12-18  2:51 ` Grant Taylor
2006-12-18  7:26 ` Cedric Blancher
2006-12-19  9:42   ` Martijn Lievaart
2006-12-19 11:05     ` Cedric Blancher
2006-12-19 18:53       ` Martijn Lievaart
2006-12-20  3:42         ` Cedric Blancher
2006-12-19 11:07     ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2006-12-19 11:46       ` Pascal Hambourg
2006-12-18 22:34 ` Martijn Lievaart
2006-12-18 22:50 ` Pascal Hambourg
2006-12-20 21:23 ` [LARTC] " Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-20 21:23   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  7:10 ` Peter Surda [this message]
2006-12-21  7:57 ` [LARTC] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-12-21  7:57   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-12-25 21:43   ` [LARTC] " Torsten Luettgert
2006-12-21 15:37 ` Grant Taylor
2006-12-21 15:55 ` /dev/rob0

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