All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
To: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Finding hardlinks
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:22:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4593C524.8070209@poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4593890C.8030207@panasas.com>

Benny Halevy wrote:
> 
> It seems like the posix idea of unique <st_dev, st_ino> doesn't
> hold water for modern file systems and that creates real problems for
> backup apps which rely on that to detect hard links.
> 

Why not? Granted, many of the filesystems in the Linux kernel don't enforce that 
they have unique st_ino values, but I'm working on a set of patches to try and 
fix that.

> Adding a vfs call to check for file equivalence seems like a good idea to me.
> A syscall exposing it to user mode apps can look like what you sketched above,
> and another variant of it can maybe take two paths and possibly a flags field
> (for e.g. don't follow symlinks).
> 
> I'm cross-posting this also to nfsv4@ietf. NFS has exactly the same problem
> with <fsid, fileid> as fileid is 64 bit wide. Although the nfs client can
> determine that two filesystem objects are hard linked if they have the same
> filehandle but there are cases where two distinct filehandles can still refer to
> the same filesystem object.  Letting the nfs client determine file equivalency
> based on filehandles will probably satisfy most users but if the exported
> fs supports the new call discussed above, exporting it over NFS makes a
> lot of sense to me... What do you guys think about adding such an operation
> to NFS?
> 

This sounds like a bug to me. It seems like we should have a one to one 
correspondence of filehandle -> inode. In what situations would this not be the 
case?

-- Jeff


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-28 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-20  9:03 Finding hardlinks Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-20 11:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-20 16:36   ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-20 16:50     ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-20 19:54       ` Al Viro
2006-12-20 20:12         ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-31 15:02         ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-21 18:58   ` Jan Harkes
2006-12-21 23:49     ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-22  5:05       ` Jan Harkes
2006-12-23 10:18       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-23 14:00         ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-28  9:06           ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28  9:06             ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 10:05             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-28 15:24               ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 15:24                 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 19:58                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-29  0:51                   ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-02 19:15                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-02 20:41                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-02 20:50                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-02 21:10                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-02 21:37                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 11:56                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-03 12:33                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-03 12:42                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-11 23:43                             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 12:45                           ` Martin Mares
2007-01-03 13:54                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-03 15:51                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-03 19:04                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-04 22:59                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-05  8:43                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-05 13:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-05 13:55                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-05 14:08                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-05 15:09                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-05 15:15                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-08 11:27                                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-08  5:57                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-08  8:49                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-08 11:29                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-08 12:00                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-08 13:26                                                   ` Martin Mares
2007-01-08 13:39                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-09 16:26                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-01-09 19:53                                                     ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-09 20:11                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-01-11 10:07                                                       ` Pádraig Brady
2007-01-11 10:07                                                         ` Pádraig Brady
2007-01-09 23:43                                                     ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-09 23:46                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-10  0:02                                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-10 17:30                                                         ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-10 17:38                                                         ` Symbolic links vs hard links Bryan Henderson
2007-01-10 17:42                                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-11 20:03                                                             ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-10 19:33                                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-10  1:30                                                       ` Finding hardlinks Steven Rostedt
2007-01-05 17:30                                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2006-12-28 18:14               ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-29 10:34                 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-29 10:34                   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-30  1:04                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-01  2:30                     ` Nikita Danilov
2007-01-01 22:58                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-01 23:05                         ` Nikita Danilov
2007-01-01 23:22                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-04 13:59                             ` Nikita Danilov
2007-01-02 23:14                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-02 23:50                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-28 13:22             ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2006-12-28 15:12               ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 15:12                 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 15:54                 ` Jeff Layton
2006-12-28 16:26                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-28 18:15                   ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-28 18:43                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29  0:44                       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-29  3:03                         ` Phillip Lougher
2006-12-29  8:41                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 15:12                             ` Phillip Lougher
2006-12-29 15:43                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29  8:36                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 18:08                           ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-29 18:18                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 21:36                               ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-29 22:36                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-28 18:17                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-28 20:07                   ` Halevy, Benny
2006-12-28 20:07                     ` Halevy, Benny
2006-12-29 10:28                     ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2006-12-31 21:25                       ` Halevy, Benny
2006-12-31 21:25                         ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-02 23:21                         ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2007-01-02 23:21                           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-03 12:35                           ` [nfsv4] " Benny Halevy
2007-01-03 12:35                             ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-04  0:43                             ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2007-01-04  8:36                             ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-04 10:04                               ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-04 10:04                                 ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-04 10:47                                 ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2007-01-04 18:12                                   ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-04 18:26                                     ` Peter Staubach
2007-01-05  8:28                                   ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-05 10:29                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-05 16:40                                 ` Nicolas Williams
2007-01-05 16:56                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-06  7:44                                   ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-10 13:04                                   ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-29 10:12                 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-31 21:19                   ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-02 23:20                     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-02 23:46                     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-28 17:58             ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-28 18:13               ` Shaya Potter
2006-12-28 22:50               ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-11 23:35             ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-29 10:02           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-01 22:47             ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-01 23:53               ` Jan Harkes
2007-01-02  0:04                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 18:58                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-03 19:17                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 19:26                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-03 19:31                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 20:26                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-12  0:00                             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 22:30                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-03 21:09                     ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-03 22:01                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-03 23:43                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-04  0:12                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-08  6:19                             ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found] <7x5mR-2wX-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <7x9Ad-18O-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7yXEy-UI-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <7yYKa-2Ds-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <7zcWP-7ET-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <7zdzA-jc-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <7zeP5-2ic-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <7zgH9-5my-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <7zJSM-14t-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <7zSW5-6cj-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <7zX9l-4rS-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                     ` <7zXMb-5g5-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-01-05 23:54                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-01-05 23:54                         ` Bodo Eggert

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4593C524.8070209@poochiereds.net \
    --to=jlayton@poochiereds.net \
    --cc=arjan@infradead.org \
    --cc=bhalevy@panasas.com \
    --cc=jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=miklos@szeredi.hu \
    --cc=mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz \
    --cc=nfsv4@ietf.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.