From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
To: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Finding hardlinks
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:22:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4593C524.8070209@poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4593890C.8030207@panasas.com>
Benny Halevy wrote:
>
> It seems like the posix idea of unique <st_dev, st_ino> doesn't
> hold water for modern file systems and that creates real problems for
> backup apps which rely on that to detect hard links.
>
Why not? Granted, many of the filesystems in the Linux kernel don't enforce that
they have unique st_ino values, but I'm working on a set of patches to try and
fix that.
> Adding a vfs call to check for file equivalence seems like a good idea to me.
> A syscall exposing it to user mode apps can look like what you sketched above,
> and another variant of it can maybe take two paths and possibly a flags field
> (for e.g. don't follow symlinks).
>
> I'm cross-posting this also to nfsv4@ietf. NFS has exactly the same problem
> with <fsid, fileid> as fileid is 64 bit wide. Although the nfs client can
> determine that two filesystem objects are hard linked if they have the same
> filehandle but there are cases where two distinct filehandles can still refer to
> the same filesystem object. Letting the nfs client determine file equivalency
> based on filehandles will probably satisfy most users but if the exported
> fs supports the new call discussed above, exporting it over NFS makes a
> lot of sense to me... What do you guys think about adding such an operation
> to NFS?
>
This sounds like a bug to me. It seems like we should have a one to one
correspondence of filehandle -> inode. In what situations would this not be the
case?
-- Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-28 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-20 9:03 Finding hardlinks Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-20 11:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-20 16:36 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-20 16:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-20 19:54 ` Al Viro
2006-12-20 20:12 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-31 15:02 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-21 18:58 ` Jan Harkes
2006-12-21 23:49 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-22 5:05 ` Jan Harkes
2006-12-23 10:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-23 14:00 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-28 9:06 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 9:06 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 10:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-28 15:24 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 15:24 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 19:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-29 0:51 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-02 19:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-02 20:41 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-02 20:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-02 21:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-02 21:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 11:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-03 12:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-03 12:42 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-11 23:43 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 12:45 ` Martin Mares
2007-01-03 13:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-03 15:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-03 19:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-04 22:59 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-05 8:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-05 13:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-05 13:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-05 14:08 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-05 15:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-05 15:15 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-08 11:27 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-08 5:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-08 8:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-08 11:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-08 12:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-08 13:26 ` Martin Mares
2007-01-08 13:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-09 16:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-01-09 19:53 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-09 20:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-01-11 10:07 ` Pádraig Brady
2007-01-11 10:07 ` Pádraig Brady
2007-01-09 23:43 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-09 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-10 0:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-10 17:30 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-10 17:38 ` Symbolic links vs hard links Bryan Henderson
2007-01-10 17:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-11 20:03 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-10 19:33 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-10 1:30 ` Finding hardlinks Steven Rostedt
2007-01-05 17:30 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2006-12-28 18:14 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-29 10:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-29 10:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-30 1:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-01 2:30 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-01-01 22:58 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-01 23:05 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-01-01 23:22 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-04 13:59 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-01-02 23:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-02 23:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-28 13:22 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2006-12-28 15:12 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 15:12 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-28 15:54 ` Jeff Layton
2006-12-28 16:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-28 18:15 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-28 18:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 0:44 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-29 3:03 ` Phillip Lougher
2006-12-29 8:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 15:12 ` Phillip Lougher
2006-12-29 15:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 8:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 18:08 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-29 18:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-29 21:36 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-29 22:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-28 18:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2006-12-28 20:07 ` Halevy, Benny
2006-12-28 20:07 ` Halevy, Benny
2006-12-29 10:28 ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2006-12-31 21:25 ` Halevy, Benny
2006-12-31 21:25 ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-02 23:21 ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2007-01-02 23:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-03 12:35 ` [nfsv4] " Benny Halevy
2007-01-03 12:35 ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-04 0:43 ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2007-01-04 8:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-04 10:04 ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-04 10:04 ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-04 10:47 ` [nfsv4] " Trond Myklebust
2007-01-04 18:12 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-04 18:26 ` Peter Staubach
2007-01-05 8:28 ` Benny Halevy
2007-01-05 10:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-05 16:40 ` Nicolas Williams
2007-01-05 16:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-06 7:44 ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-10 13:04 ` Benny Halevy
2006-12-29 10:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-31 21:19 ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-02 23:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-01-02 23:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-28 17:58 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-28 18:13 ` Shaya Potter
2006-12-28 22:50 ` Halevy, Benny
2007-01-11 23:35 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-12-29 10:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-01 22:47 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-01 23:53 ` Jan Harkes
2007-01-02 0:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 18:58 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-03 19:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 19:26 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-03 19:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-03 20:26 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-12 0:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 22:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-03 21:09 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-01-03 22:01 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-03 23:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2007-01-04 0:12 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-01-08 6:19 ` Mikulas Patocka
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2007-01-05 23:54 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-01-05 23:54 ` Bodo Eggert
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