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From: Pierre Peiffer <pierre.peiffer@bull.net>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dinakar Guniguntala" <dino@in.ibm.com>,
	"Jean-Pierre Dion" <jean-pierre.dion@bull.net>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>, "Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>,
	"Sébastien Dugué" <sebastien.dugue@bull.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.20-rc4 1/4] futex priority based wakeup
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:47:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45A4D249.8080904@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45A3C2CE.7070500@redhat.com>

Ulrich Drepper a écrit :
> 
> I have never seen performance numbers for this.  If it is punishing
> existing code in a measurable way I think it's not anacceptable default
> behavior.
> 

Here are some numbers. My test program measures the latency of pthread_broadcast 
with 1000 pthreads (all threads are blocked on pthread_cond_wait, the time is 
measured between the broadcast call and the last woken pthread).

Here are the average latencies after 5000 measures.

[only this patch is used, not the following.
  The system is a dual Xeon 2.80GHz with HT enable]

First case: all threads are SCHED_OTHER
* with simple list:
Iterations=5000
Latency (us)      min      max      avg      stddev
                  3869     7400  6656.73      539.35

* with plist:
Iterations=5000
Latency (us)      min      max      avg      stddev
                  3684     7629  6787.97      479.41

Second case: all threads are SCHED_FIFO with priority equally distributed from 
priomin to priomax
* with simple list:
Iterations=5000
Latency (us)      min      max      avg      stddev
                  4548     7197  6656.85      463.30

* with plist:
Iterations=5000
Latency (us)      min      max      avg      stddev
                  8289    11752  9720.12      426.45


So, yes it (logically) has a cost, depending of the number of different 
priorities used, so it's specially measurable with real-time threads.
With SCHED_OTHER, I suppose that the priorities are not be very distributed.

May be, supposing it makes sense to respect the priority order only for 
real-time pthreads, I can register all SCHED_OTHER threads to the same 
MAX_RT_PRIO priotity ?
Or do you think this must be set behind a CONFIG* option ?
(Or finally not interesting enough for mainline ?)

-- 
Pierre

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-10 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <45A3B330.9000104@bull.net>
2007-01-09 16:16 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc4 1/4] futex priority based wakeup Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-09 16:29   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-01-10 11:47     ` Pierre Peiffer [this message]
2007-01-10 12:03       ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-10 12:54       ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-01-10 15:05         ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-10 18:15           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-01-11  7:20       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-01-09 17:59   ` Daniel Walker
2007-01-10 16:11   ` Daniel Walker
2007-01-10 16:29     ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-10 16:33       ` Daniel Walker
2007-01-09 16:16 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc4 2/4] Make futex_wait() use an hrtimer for timeout Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-09 16:20 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc4 3/4] futex_requeue_pi optimization Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-09 16:33   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-01-10  8:17     ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-10  8:24       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-01-09 16:25 ` [PATCH 2.6.20-rc4 4/4][RFC] sys_futex64 : allows 64bit futexes Pierre Peiffer
2007-01-11 21:49   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-11 22:14   ` Jakub Jelinek

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