From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
Linux Kernel mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "obsolete" versus "deprecated", and a new config option?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:13:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45AE6759.70108@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701171134440.1878@CPE00045a9c397f-CM001225dbafb6>
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> a couple random thoughts on the notion of obsolescence and
> deprecation.
[...horrible example deleted...]
> so is that ioctl obsolete or deprecated? those aren't the same
> things, a good distinction being drawn here by someone discussing
> devfs:
>
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/1893
>
> "Devfs is deprecated. This means it's still available but you should
> consider moving to other options when available. Obsolete means it
> shouldn't be used. Some 2.6 docs have confused these two terms WRT
> devfs."
>
> yes, and that confusion continues to this day, when a single feature
> is described as both deprecated and obsolete. not good. (also, i'm
> guessing that anything that's "obsolete" might deserve a default of
> "n" rather than "y", but that's just me. :-)
Agree on that. I would hope "obsolete" means there's a newer way which
should provide the functionality (** help should say where that is **)
while depreciated should mean "we decided this was a bad solution" or
something like that.
>
> in any event, what about introducing a new config variable,
> OBSOLETE, under "Code maturity level options"? this would seem to be
> a quick and dirty way to prune anything that is *supposed* to be
> obsolete from the build, to make sure you're not picking up dead code
> by accident.
If you're doing that, why not four variables, for incomplete,
experimental, obsolete and depreciated? Unfortunately doing any more
detailed nomenclature would be a LOT of work!
>
> i think it would be useful to be able to make that kind of
> distinction since, as the devfs writer pointed out above, the point of
> labelling something "obsolete" is not to *discourage* someone from
> using a feature, it's to imply that they *shouldn't* be using that
> feature. period. which suggests there should be an easy, one-step
> way to enforce that absolutely in a build.
>
> thoughts?
>
I think it's a good idea, but doing it right may be more work than the
benefit justifies.
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-17 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-17 16:51 "obsolete" versus "deprecated", and a new config option? Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-17 18:13 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-01-17 18:42 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-17 21:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-17 22:04 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-17 22:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-17 22:51 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-01-18 21:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
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