From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Ericsson Subject: Re: [PATCH/POLL] git-format-patch: the default suffix is now .patch, not .txt Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:03:17 +0100 Message-ID: <45AFA855.6050804@op5.se> References: <625fc13d0701171218i31585558wf89374eae9485341@mail.gmail.com> <7vsle9p8pg.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <7vd55dp5a3.fsf_-_@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <81b0412b0701172359y1ef4f936pcdcb2de53d6bd468@mail.gmail.com> <7v64b4ohcj.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <81b0412b0701180135r505a75a5j172c70792d6569c0@mail.gmail.com> <625fc13d0701180352m151cceb3lf9c00b6cf0ae937b@mail.gmail.com> <81b0412b0701180540x15d20453s3dbc0c061fd06d50@mail.gmail.com> <20070118154257.GC15428@spearce.org> <45AFA083.9050004@op5.se> <20070118165107.GF15428@spearce.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alex Riesen , Josh Boyer , Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, davidk@lysator.liu.se X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Jan 18 18:03:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H7afZ-0003Xn-Mu for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:03:22 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752064AbXARRDU (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:03:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752060AbXARRDU (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:03:20 -0500 Received: from linux-server1.op5.se ([193.201.96.2]:44951 "EHLO smtp-gw1.op5.se" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752064AbXARRDT (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:03:19 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [213.88.215.14]) by smtp-gw1.op5.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2F66BCBE; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:03:17 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070102) To: "Shawn O. Pearce" In-Reply-To: <20070118165107.GF15428@spearce.org> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > Andreas Ericsson wrote: >> Would a +46-31 number work? If so, you could give me a call when you're >> having trouble. I'd probably end up asking the list, or bribing Junio >> with beer to answer for me, but the fee would be low (how much is a >> dozen beers in Japan?), so perhaps it'd be worth it ;-) > > Heh. The thing is, with me "on staff" I doubt you can get much > better support. I know Git very well, almost as well as Linus, > Junio, Nico, and Johannes (sorry, no particular order there). > What I don't know off the top of my head, I know where the source > code for it is, and I can read and understand it rather quickly. > Ya, I knows. :) > When something breaks, I can usually fix it myself, and that usually > results in a patch to Junio just hours after I discover the problem. > Most of the time the patch is worthy of inclusion and Junio picks > it up. You can't get that kind of response from a commerical vendor, > at least not without forking over bucket loads of cash first. > > The problem is, the organization has strict rules about recommending > yourself as a vendor. But recommending a guy half way around the > world who works for beer is probably in compliance. :-) > That was my devilishly clever plan; To provide support to someone who knows the thing I'm supposed to support a lot better than myself, while getting some free beer in the process ;-) >> On a serious note, it's probably about time the world saw its first >> commercial git support company. It's legal to package and sell GPL'd >> code. Many companies have already proven that it can be a very >> lucrative business. > > I've thought about doing this myself. I'm just so short on time > that developing a business providing support would probably push me > way over the edge. Ideally I'd love to have such a venture make its > money off support contracts and a small markup on dead-tree forms of > open-source Git documentation. I'd also love to see such a venture > be able to support a Git developer or two full-time, making sure that > all of their work is getting folded back into the main git.git tree. > Which of course implies they can't be heading off in directions > that the rest of the group finds useless/pointless/stupid/etc. > > Wishful thinking. Back to reality. > This is a case where "Think Big" isn't enough, and you need to "Think Bigger". Don't settle for shipping help-docs on git and answering the phone. Sell pre-packaged versions of git, with a pre-installed Linux server with raided disks and a nifty backup-solution (just sell a second server and use an update-hook to replicate everything to that one, then you're done). You could easily charge up to $2,500 / user for providing "A fully integrated VCS / backup solution, with full failover to ensure 100% efficiency in your day-to-day job". Tack on another 10k for the two servers and another 1k / dev to go to a training seminar and you're good to go. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231