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From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
Cc: "Eric D. Mudama" <edmudama@gmail.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	dougg@torque.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi_lib.c: continue after MEDIUM_ERROR
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:08:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45C0B0DC.8030501@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45C00AEE.1090708@emc.com>

Ric Wheeler wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
>> Eric D. Mudama wrote:
>>> Actually, it's possibly worse, since each failure in libata will 
>>> generate 3-4 retries. 

(note: libata does *not* generate retries for medium errors;
 the looping is driven by the SCSI mid-layer code).

>> It really beats the alternative of a forced reboot
>> due to, say, superblock I/O failing because it happened
>> to get merged with an unrelated I/O which then failed..
>> Etc..
>>
>> Definitely an improvement.
>>
>> The number of retries is an entirely separate issue.
>> If we really care about it, then we should fix SD_MAX_RETRIES.
>>
>> The current value of 5 is *way* too high.  It should be zero or one.
..
> I think that drives retry enough, we should leave retry at zero for 
> normal (non-removable) drives. Should this  be a policy we can set like 
> we do with NCQ queue depth via /sys ?

Or perhaps we could have the mid-layer always "early-exit"
without retries for "MEDIUM_ERROR", and still do retries for the rest.

When libata reports a MEDIUM_ERROR to us, we *know* it's non-recoverable,
as the drive itself has already done internal retries (libata uses the
"with retry" ATA opcodes for this).

But meanwhile, we still have the original issue too, where a single stray
bad sector can blow a system out of the water, because the mid-layer
currently aborts everything after it from a large merged request.

Thus the original patch from this thread.  :)

Cheers

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-31 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-31  0:47 [PATCH] scsi_lib.c: continue after MEDIUM_ERROR Mark Lord
2007-01-31  1:12 ` [PATCH] RESEND " Mark Lord
2007-01-31  1:16 ` [PATCH] " James Bottomley
2007-01-31  1:36   ` Mark Lord
     [not found]   ` <311601c90701301725n53d25a74g652b7ca3bfc64c56@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-31  1:41     ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31  3:20       ` Ric Wheeler
2007-01-31  4:21         ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31 15:13           ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 15:22             ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 15:24             ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31  5:09         ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-01-31 15:08         ` Mark Lord [this message]
2007-01-31 15:23           ` Alan
2007-01-31 16:35             ` Ric Wheeler
2007-01-31 17:57             ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 18:13               ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31 18:37                 ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31  9:30       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 14:36         ` Ric Wheeler
2007-01-31 15:28           ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-01-31 15:38             ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 20:02   ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 21:55     ` James Bottomley
2007-02-02  2:48       ` Mark Lord
2007-02-02 12:20       ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-02 14:42         ` Alan
2007-02-02 14:53           ` James Bottomley
2007-02-02 16:16             ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-02 20:16           ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-02-02 14:50         ` Alan
2007-02-02 16:06           ` Mark Lord
2007-02-02 19:49             ` Matt Mackall
2007-02-02 22:58               ` Mark Lord
2007-02-02 23:07                 ` Matt Mackall

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