From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jaco Kroon Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:56:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [KJ] the current situation for the KJ wiki Message-Id: <45C1811B.9030404@kroon.co.za> List-Id: References: <20070131135158.7c4fdffc.rdunlap@xenotime.net> In-Reply-To: <20070131135158.7c4fdffc.rdunlap@xenotime.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:48 -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote: > >>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:15:29 +0200 Jaco Kroon wrote: > > [...] > >>>Note: From hard experience I've learned that Wiki SPAM is just as bad >>>(if not worse than) email-borne SPAM. AVOID AT ALL COST! And no, >>>captchas simply does not stop spammers. >> >>who/what are captchas? > > > The numbers and/or letters somewhat stretched in several directions with > a quite random background where people are (supposed to be) able to read > them quite easily (and copy them into some input field) and machines > cannot easily decode them. > In short: a test if there is a human in front of the webpage. Correct, but in many cases OCR software can decipher them, and when that isn't simple enough a human spammer can solve them at around a captcha every 5 seconds, stil allowing a spammer to do about 20 posts per minute, permitting he's willing to sit there the whole day and solve captchas. Or man-in-the-middle if he can construct a "popular" site on which to represent the captchas to other people to solve. >>>(btw, about half of the spam that now lands in my inbox comes via this >>>mailing list, is anybody else also experiencing an escalation of spam >>>coming in from this list?) >> >>I see an escalation from everywhere. :( > > > ACK. Yea, but my filters seem to be able to stop most of the other crap, so perhaps I should rephrase, about half of the spam that actually makes it to my inbox is via this list. Oh, just btw, if I switch off all filtering about 80 % of my incoming mail is spam, as it stands (after filtering) I only get about 3 to 5 spams a day in my inbox, except when some spammer goes totally balistic on the KJ mailing list in which case it increases quite significantly. I suspect this is due to the spamassassin "autowhitelisting" features but I'm not 100 % sure. That, and much improved spamming techniques. And yes, the amount of filtered spam has increased a lot recently, I'd go almost as far as to say that it has doubled in the last 6 months. Jaco _______________________________________________ Kernel-janitors mailing list Kernel-janitors@lists.osdl.org https://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel-janitors