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From: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/11] Panic delay fix
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:59:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45C8FA2D.6010706@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070206122729.GC47229@muc.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:53:30PM -0800, Zachary Amsden wrote:
>   
>> Failure to use real-time delay here causes the keyboard to become demonically
>> possessed in the event of a kernel crash, with wildly blinking lights and
>> unpredictable behavior.  This has resulted in several injuries.
>>     
>
> There must be a reason why it wasn't default before. Has this
> reason changed?
>   

This only matters under paravirt; non-paravirt kernels and kernels 
running on native hardware will always behave properly.

But paravirtualized kernels with fake devices have no need to udelay to 
accommodate slow hardware - the hardware is just virtual.  The 
USE_REAL_TIME_DELAY define allows udelay to be specifically reverted 
back to being a real delay.  There are only a couple cases where it 
matters - one is booting APs on SMP systems (there is a real delay 
before they come up), and one is any hardware that drives world 
interacting devices - such as keyboard LEDs in a panic loop.

Zach

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-06 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-06  3:53 [PATCH 9/11] Panic delay fix Zachary Amsden
2007-02-06 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-06 21:59   ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2007-02-07 12:35     ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-07 20:36       ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-07 22:23         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 14:43         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-08 21:26           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 21:37             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 12:26         ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-14 19:47           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-14 12:52         ` Alan
2007-02-14 20:04           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-14 21:34             ` Alan
2007-02-14 21:53               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-15  0:33                 ` Alan
2007-02-15 10:17             ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 23:42               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-15 23:49                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-15 23:50                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  3:22                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-07 14:58     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-07 22:31       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08  8:24         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-08  9:08           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-08 13:33             ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-08 14:41               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 12:49             ` Alan
2007-02-14 22:51 ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-15  0:28   ` Alan
2007-02-15 13:35   ` Dmitry Torokhov

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