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* are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
@ 2007-02-22  1:13 John Utz
  2007-02-22  2:20 ` Tobin Davis
  2007-02-22 10:55 ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: John Utz @ 2007-02-22  1:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


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i executed the following steps from the wiki:

# Get a copy of the repository
cd alsa-hg

hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel

# Get latest

cd alsa-driver
hg pull -u

cd alsa-kernel
hg pull -u

# Create a working copy
hg clone alsa-driver alsa-driver-fixbug1
cd alsa-driver-fixbug1



However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not the real iplementations

ie:

[jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
-rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c


these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:

[jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
#define __NO_VERSION__
#include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"


am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?

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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22  1:13 are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct? John Utz
@ 2007-02-22  2:20 ` Tobin Davis
  2007-02-22  9:11   ` Ingo Müller
                     ` (2 more replies)
  2007-02-22 10:55 ` Takashi Iwai
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tobin Davis @ 2007-02-22  2:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Utz; +Cc: alsa-devel


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use http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver and
http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel.

The wiki is wrong (and hasn't been updated).

Tobin

On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 17:13 -0800, John Utz wrote:

> i executed the following steps from the wiki:
> 
> # Get a copy of the repository
> cd alsa-hg
> 
> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
> 
> # Get latest
> 
> cd alsa-driver
> hg pull -u
> 
> cd alsa-kernel
> hg pull -u
> 
> # Create a working copy
> hg clone alsa-driver alsa-driver-fixbug1
> cd alsa-driver-fixbug1
> 
> 
> 
> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not
> the real iplementations
> 
> ie:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> 
> 
> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> #define __NO_VERSION__
> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
> 
> 
> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?
> 
> 
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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22  2:20 ` Tobin Davis
@ 2007-02-22  9:11   ` Ingo Müller
  2007-02-22 17:06     ` John Utz
  2007-02-22 10:54   ` Takashi Iwai
  2007-02-22 17:05   ` John Utz
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Ingo Müller @ 2007-02-22  9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel



Tobin Davis schrieb:
> use http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver and
> http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel.
> 
> The wiki is wrong (and hasn't been updated).
> 
> Tobin
> 

It'd be GREAT if you could bring it up-to-date! I can't do it because I
simply don't now how it works. Thanks in advance...

Regards, Ingo


> On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 17:13 -0800, John Utz wrote:
> 
>> i executed the following steps from the wiki:
>>
>> # Get a copy of the repository
>> cd alsa-hg
>>
>> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
>> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
>>
>> # Get latest
>>
>> cd alsa-driver
>> hg pull -u
>>
>> cd alsa-kernel
>> hg pull -u
>>
>> # Create a working copy
>> hg clone alsa-driver alsa-driver-fixbug1
>> cd alsa-driver-fixbug1
>>
>>
>>
>> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not
>> the real iplementations
>>
>> ie:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>>
>>
>> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> #define __NO_VERSION__
>> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
>>
>>
>> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?


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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22  2:20 ` Tobin Davis
  2007-02-22  9:11   ` Ingo Müller
@ 2007-02-22 10:54   ` Takashi Iwai
  2007-02-22 17:05   ` John Utz
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2007-02-22 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobin Davis; +Cc: alsa-devel, John Utz

At Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:20:44 -0800,
Tobin Davis wrote:
> 
> use http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver and http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel.
> 
> The wiki is wrong (and hasn't been updated).

hg-mirror should work, too.


Takashi

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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22  1:13 are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct? John Utz
  2007-02-22  2:20 ` Tobin Davis
@ 2007-02-22 10:55 ` Takashi Iwai
  2007-02-22 17:08   ` John Utz
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2007-02-22 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Utz; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:13:55 -0800,
John Utz wrote:
> 
> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not the real
> iplementations
> 
> ie:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> 
> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> #define __NO_VERSION__
> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
> 
> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?

The real codes are found in alsa-kernel tree.  These are synced with
the linux kernel tree.  When you run hgconfigure script, it makes
symlink from alsa-driver/alsa-kernel pointing that directory.


Takashi

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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22  2:20 ` Tobin Davis
  2007-02-22  9:11   ` Ingo Müller
  2007-02-22 10:54   ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2007-02-22 17:05   ` John Utz
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: John Utz @ 2007-02-22 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobin Davis; +Cc: alsa-devel


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fixed now eh!

easily done!


-----Original Message-----
From: Tobin Davis [mailto:tdavis@dsl-only.net]
Sent: Wed 2/21/2007 6:20 PM
To: John Utz
Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
 
use http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver and
http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel.

The wiki is wrong (and hasn't been updated).

Tobin

On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 17:13 -0800, John Utz wrote:

> i executed the following steps from the wiki:
> 
> # Get a copy of the repository
> cd alsa-hg
> 
> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
> 
> # Get latest
> 
> cd alsa-driver
> hg pull -u
> 
> cd alsa-kernel
> hg pull -u
> 
> # Create a working copy
> hg clone alsa-driver alsa-driver-fixbug1
> cd alsa-driver-fixbug1
> 
> 
> 
> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not
> the real iplementations
> 
> ie:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
> 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> 
> 
> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> #define __NO_VERSION__
> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
> 
> 
> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?
> 
> 
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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22  9:11   ` Ingo Müller
@ 2007-02-22 17:06     ` John Utz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: John Utz @ 2007-02-22 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ingo Müller, alsa-devel


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Ingo, i created a wiki account for myself and fixed it



-----Original Message-----
From: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net on behalf of Ingo Müller
Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 1:11 AM
To: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
 


Tobin Davis schrieb:
> use http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver and
> http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel.
> 
> The wiki is wrong (and hasn't been updated).
> 
> Tobin
> 

It'd be GREAT if you could bring it up-to-date! I can't do it because I
simply don't now how it works. Thanks in advance...

Regards, Ingo


> On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 17:13 -0800, John Utz wrote:
> 
>> i executed the following steps from the wiki:
>>
>> # Get a copy of the repository
>> cd alsa-hg
>>
>> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
>> hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
>>
>> # Get latest
>>
>> cd alsa-driver
>> hg pull -u
>>
>> cd alsa-kernel
>> hg pull -u
>>
>> # Create a working copy
>> hg clone alsa-driver alsa-driver-fixbug1
>> cd alsa-driver-fixbug1
>>
>>
>>
>> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not
>> the real iplementations
>>
>> ie:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21
>> 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>>
>>
>> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> #define __NO_VERSION__
>> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
>>
>>
>> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?


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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22 10:55 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2007-02-22 17:08   ` John Utz
  2007-02-22 21:37     ` Ingo Müller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: John Utz @ 2007-02-22 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel


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-----Original Message-----
From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 2:55 AM
To: John Utz
Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
 
At Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:13:55 -0800,
John Utz wrote:
> 
> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not the real
> iplementations
> 
> ie:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> 
> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
> 
> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
> #define __NO_VERSION__
> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
> 
> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?

The real codes are found in alsa-kernel tree.  These are synced with
the linux kernel tree.  When you run hgconfigure script, it makes
symlink from alsa-driver/alsa-kernel pointing that directory.


Takashi




Please look at the file info, the files in both the alsa-driver and alsa-kernel are identical, the ones in the alsa-kernel should be the full sized ones, not copies of the stub file

is there something that i am failing to understand?

tnx!

johnu

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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22 17:08   ` John Utz
@ 2007-02-22 21:37     ` Ingo Müller
  2007-02-22 21:53       ` John Utz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Ingo Müller @ 2007-02-22 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

I just realized that we weren't talking about the same wiki :-D You sure
now the unofficial wiki at http://alsa.opensrc.org/... Thanks a lot
anyway! I'm currently working on the other wiki, so if the licences
permit it, I'll copy your text to this one, too...

Regards, Ingo



John Utz schrieb:
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 2:55 AM
> To: John Utz
> Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
>  
> At Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:13:55 -0800,
> John Utz wrote:
>> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not the real
>> iplementations
>>
>> ie:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>>
>> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> #define __NO_VERSION__
>> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
>>
>> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?
> 
> The real codes are found in alsa-kernel tree.  These are synced with
> the linux kernel tree.  When you run hgconfigure script, it makes
> symlink from alsa-driver/alsa-kernel pointing that directory.
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please look at the file info, the files in both the alsa-driver and alsa-kernel are identical, the ones in the alsa-kernel should be the full sized ones, not copies of the stub file
> 
> is there something that i am failing to understand?
> 
> tnx!
> 
> johnu
> 


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* Re: are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
  2007-02-22 21:37     ` Ingo Müller
@ 2007-02-22 21:53       ` John Utz
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From: John Utz @ 2007-02-22 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ingo Müller, alsa-devel


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:-)

Ahh,

I didnt realize that there where two of them.....


-----Original Message-----
From: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net on behalf of Ingo Müller
Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 1:37 PM
To: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
 
I just realized that we weren't talking about the same wiki :-D You sure
now the unofficial wiki at http://alsa.opensrc.org/... Thanks a lot
anyway! I'm currently working on the other wiki, so if the licences
permit it, I'll copy your text to this one, too...

Regards, Ingo



John Utz schrieb:
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 2:55 AM
> To: John Utz
> Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] are the alsa wiki instructions for mercurial correct?
>  
> At Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:13:55 -0800,
> John Utz wrote:
>> However, all that i seem to be pulling down is the stub file and not the real
>> iplementations
>>
>> ie:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ find . -name ac97_patch.c -exec ls -l {} \;
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:17 ./alsa-driver-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:13 ./alsa-kernel-2908/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jutz jutz 74 Feb 21 17:07 ./alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>>
>> these are just the files that include the 'real' implementations:
>>
>> [jutz@localhost alsa-hg]$ more alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c
>> #define __NO_VERSION__
>> #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c"
>>
>> am i doing something wrong or is mercurial missing some stuff?
> 
> The real codes are found in alsa-kernel tree.  These are synced with
> the linux kernel tree.  When you run hgconfigure script, it makes
> symlink from alsa-driver/alsa-kernel pointing that directory.
> 
> 
> Takashi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please look at the file info, the files in both the alsa-driver and alsa-kernel are identical, the ones in the alsa-kernel should be the full sized ones, not copies of the stub file
> 
> is there something that i am failing to understand?
> 
> tnx!
> 
> johnu
> 


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