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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Nish Aravamudan <nish.aravamudan@gmail.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Allegrucci <l_allegrucci@yahoo.it>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: SMP performance degradation with sysbench
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:22:56 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45E4E780.8010109@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29495f1d0702271727w358cc9o644c4017d50634a9@mail.gmail.com>

Nish Aravamudan wrote:
> On 2/26/07, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Rik van Riel wrote:
>> > Lorenzo Allegrucci wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi lkml,
>> >>
>> >> according to the test below (sysbench) Linux seems to have scalability
>> >> problems beyond 8 client threads:
>> >> http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/6268.html#cutid1
>> >> http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/5705.html
>> >> Hardware is an 8-core amd64 system and jeffr seems willing to try more
>> >> Linux versions on that machine.
>> >> Anyway, is there anyone who can reproduce this?
>> >
>> >
>> > I have reproduced it on a quad core test system.
>> >
>> > With 4 threads (on 4 cores) I get a high throughput, with
>> > approximately 58% user time and 42% system time.
>> >
>> > With 8 threads (on 4 cores) I get way lower throughput,
>> > with 37% user time, 29% system time 35% idle time!
>> >
>> > The maximum time taken per query also increases from
>> > 0.0096s to 0.5273s. Ouch!
>> >
>> > I don't know if this is MySQL, glibc or Linux kernel,
>> > but something strange is going on...
>>
>> Like you, I'm also seeing idle time start going up as threads increase.
>>
>> I initially thought this was a problem with the multiprocessor scheduler,
>> because the pattern is exactly like some artificat in the load balancing.
>>
>> However, after looking at the stats, and testing a couple of things, I
>> think it may not be after all.
>>
>> I've reproduced this on a 8-socket/16-way dual core Opteron. So far what
>> I am seeing is that MySQL is having trouble putting enough load into the
>> scheduler.
> 
> 
> Here are some graphs from the 4-socket/8-way Xeon box (no SMT, no MC
> in .config) I posted about earlier.
> 
> transactions.png resembles Nick's results pretty closely, in that a
> drop-off occurs, at the same # of threads, too. That seems weird to
> me, but I haven't thought about it too closely. Shouldn't Nick's be
> dropping off closer to 16 threads (that would be 1 per core, then,
> right?)

I don't think it is exactly a matter of processes >= cores, but rather
just a general problem at higher concurrency.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-28  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-25 17:44 SMP performance degradation with sysbench Lorenzo Allegrucci
2007-02-25 23:46 ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-26 13:36   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-26 13:41     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-26 22:04     ` Pete Harlan
2007-02-26 22:36       ` Dave Jones
2007-02-27  0:32         ` Hiro Yoshioka
2007-02-27  0:43           ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-27  4:03             ` Hiro Yoshioka
2007-02-27  4:31               ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-27  8:14                 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-02-27 14:02                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-27 14:56                     ` Paulo Marques
2007-02-27 20:40                       ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-02-28  2:21                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-28  2:52                         ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-03-01  0:20                           ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-02-27 19:05                     ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2007-03-01 16:57                       ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2007-02-28  1:27     ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-02-28  2:22       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-02-28  2:51         ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-03-12 22:00     ` Anton Blanchard
2007-03-13  5:11       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13  9:45         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 10:06           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 10:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 10:37               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 10:57                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 11:12                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 11:40                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-13 11:56                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 11:42                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 12:02                       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-13 12:27                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-03-13 12:08                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 23:33                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-03-20  2:29                           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-04-02  2:59                             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-03-13  6:00       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-14  0:36       ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-03-14  1:00         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-14  1:09           ` Nish Aravamudan
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2007-02-28  0:20           ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-28  1:32             ` Hiro Yoshioka

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