From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: "Michael K. Edwards" <medwards.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: sys_write() racy for multi-threaded append?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:15:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F0A71C.2000800@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2b55d220703081557k8101e68g1a3556e42f68416@mail.gmail.com>
Michael K. Edwards a écrit :
> On 3/8/07, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> wrote:
>> Nothing in the manuals says that write() on same fd should be non racy
>> : In
>> particular file pos might be undefined. There is a reason pwrite()
>> exists.
>>
>> Kernel doesnt have to enforce thread safety as standard is quite clear.
>
> I know the standard _allows_ us to crash and burn (well, corrupt
> f_pos) when two threads race on an fd, but why would we want to?
> Wouldn't it be better to do something at least slightly sane, like add
> atomically to f_pos the expected number of number of bytes written,
> then do the write, then fix it up (again atomically) if vfs_write
> returns an unexpected pos?
Absolutely not. We dont want to slow down kernel 'just in case a fool might
want to do crazy things'
>
>> Only O_APPEND case is specially handled (and NFS might fail to handle
>> this
>> case correctly)
>
> Is it? How?
mm/filemap.c
generic_write_checks()
if (file->f_flags & O_APPEND)
*pos = i_size_read(inode);
done while inode is locked.
O_APPEND basically says : Just ignore fpos and always use the 'end of file'
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-09 0:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-08 23:08 sys_write() racy for multi-threaded append? Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-08 23:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-08 23:57 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09 0:15 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-03-09 0:45 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09 1:34 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-03-09 12:19 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09 13:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-09 14:10 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-09 14:59 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-03-10 6:43 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09 5:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-09 11:52 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09 0:43 ` Alan Cox
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[not found] ` <7WAx2-2pg-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <7WAGF-2Bx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <7WB07-3g5-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <7WBt7-3SZ-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-03-12 7:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-12 16:26 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-12 18:48 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-13 0:46 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 2:24 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-13 7:25 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 7:42 ` David Miller
2007-03-13 16:24 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 17:59 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 19:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-13 23:40 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-14 0:09 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 13:15 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-14 20:09 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-16 16:43 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-03-16 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-13 14:00 ` David M. Lloyd
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