From: Peter Rabbitson <rabbit@rabbit.us>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: mismatch_cnt questions - how about raid10?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:26:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F56329.4000407@rabbit.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17908.59047.688420.79050@notabene.brown>
Neil Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday March 6, rabbit@rabbit.us wrote:
>
> Though it is less likely, a regular filesystem could still (I think)
> genuinely write different data to difference devices in a raid1/10.
>
> So relying on mismatch_cnt for early problem detection probably isn't
> really workable.
>
> And I think that if a drive is returning bad data without signalling
> an error, then you are very much into the 'late' side of problem
> detection.
I agree with the later, but my concern is not that much with the cause,
but with the effect. From past discussion on the list I gather that no
special effort is made to determine which chunk to take as 'valid', even
though more than 2 logically identical chunks might be present
(raid1/10). And you also seem to think that the DMA syndrome might even
apply to plain fast-changing filesystems, left alone something with
multiple layers (fs on lvm on raid).
So here is my question: how (theoretically) safe it is to use a raid1/10
array for something very disk intensive, e.g. a mail spool? How likely
it is that the effect you described above will creep different blocks
onto disks, and subsequently will return the wrong data to the kernel?
Should I look into raid5/6 for this kind of activity, in case both
uptime and data integrity are my number one priorities, and I am willing
to sacrifice performance?
Thank you
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-12 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-04 11:22 mismatch_cnt questions Christian Pernegger
2007-03-04 11:50 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-04 12:01 ` Christian Pernegger
2007-03-04 22:19 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-06 10:04 ` mismatch_cnt questions - how about raid10? Peter Rabbitson
2007-03-06 10:20 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-06 10:56 ` Peter Rabbitson
2007-03-06 10:59 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-12 5:35 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-12 14:26 ` Peter Rabbitson [this message]
2007-03-04 21:21 ` mismatch_cnt questions Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-03-04 22:30 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-05 7:45 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-03-05 14:56 ` detecting/correcting _slightly_ flaky disks Michael Stumpf
2007-03-05 15:09 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-05 17:01 ` Michael Stumpf
2007-03-05 17:11 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-07 0:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-07 1:37 ` Michael Stumpf
2007-03-07 13:57 ` berk walker
2007-03-07 15:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-05 23:40 ` mismatch_cnt questions Neil Brown
2007-03-07 0:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-08 6:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-08 13:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-03-09 2:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 4:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-09 5:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-08 6:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-08 7:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-08 8:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-13 9:58 ` Andre Noll
2007-03-13 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-06 6:27 ` Paul Davidson
2008-05-12 11:16 ` Bas van Schaik
2008-05-12 14:31 ` Justin Piszcz
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