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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Cc: Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>,
	dwalker@mvista.com, cpufreq@lists.linux.org.uk,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Stolen and degraded time and schedulers
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:08:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F80FE1.3030603@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070314135845.GG22466@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> How would you deal with something like a pentium 4 HT processor where
> you may run slower just because you got scheduled on the sibling of a
> cpu that happens to run something else needing the same execution units
> you do, causing you to get delayed more, even though the cpu is running
> full speed and nothing else is trying to use your "cpu"?  I don't think
> there is any way to know what the real impact of two processes on a HT
> cpu have on each other.
>
> Interesting goal.  Not sure it can be done.

You're right.  That's a very tough case.  I don't know if there's any
way to do a reasonable estimate of the slowdown.  You could handwave it
and say "if both threads are running a process, then apply an X scaling
factor to their rate of progress".  That might be enough.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-14 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-13 16:31 Stolen and degraded time and schedulers Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 16:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:12 ` john stultz
2007-03-13 20:32   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:32     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 21:27     ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-13 21:27       ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-13 21:59       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 21:59         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  0:43         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14  4:37           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  4:37             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 13:58             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 15:08               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-03-14 15:12                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 15:12                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 19:02             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 19:34               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 19:45                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-14 19:45                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-14 19:47                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 19:47                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 20:02                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-14 20:02                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-14 20:26                 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 20:31                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 20:46                     ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 20:46                       ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 21:18                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 19:09                         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 19:09                           ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 19:18                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 19:18                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 19:48                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-15 19:48                             ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-15 19:53                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 19:53                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 20:07                             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 20:07                               ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 20:14                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-15 20:14                                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-15 20:35                                 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 20:35                                   ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-16  8:59                                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-03-14 20:38                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:59                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  8:38                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16  8:38                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:53                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15  5:23                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-15  5:23                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-15 19:33                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  2:00         ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14  6:52           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  8:20             ` Zan Lynx
2007-03-14 16:11             ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 16:11               ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 16:37               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 16:59                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 17:08                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 18:06                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 18:06                       ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 18:41                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 19:00                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 19:44                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 20:33                             ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 21:16                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:34                                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 21:42                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-14 21:36   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-14 21:38   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:38     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:40   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-14 21:40     ` Con Kolivas

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