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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Dmitriy Monakhov <dmonakhov@sw.ru>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Linux Filesystems <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/5] fs: introduce new aops and infrastructure
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:04:54 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F91A46.30608@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bqiuzvqy.fsf@sw.ru>

Dmitriy Monakhov wrote:
> Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> writes:
> 
> 
>>Index: linux-2.6/fs/splice.c
>>===================================================================
>>--- linux-2.6.orig/fs/splice.c
>>+++ linux-2.6/fs/splice.c
>>@@ -559,7 +559,7 @@ static int pipe_to_file(struct pipe_inod
>> 	struct address_space *mapping = file->f_mapping;
>> 	unsigned int offset, this_len;
>> 	struct page *page;
>>-	pgoff_t index;
>>+	void *fsdata;
>> 	int ret;
>> 
>> 	/*
>>@@ -569,13 +569,13 @@ static int pipe_to_file(struct pipe_inod
>> 	if (unlikely(ret))
>> 		return ret;
>> 
>>-	index = sd->pos >> PAGE_CACHE_SHIFT;
>> 	offset = sd->pos & ~PAGE_CACHE_MASK;
>> 
>> 	this_len = sd->len;
>> 	if (this_len + offset > PAGE_CACHE_SIZE)
>> 		this_len = PAGE_CACHE_SIZE - offset;
>> 
>>+#if 0
>> 	/*
>> 	 * Reuse buf page, if SPLICE_F_MOVE is set and we are doing a full
>> 	 * page.
>>@@ -587,86 +587,11 @@ static int pipe_to_file(struct pipe_inod
>> 		 * locked on successful return.
>> 		 */
>> 		if (buf->ops->steal(pipe, buf))
>>-			goto find_page;
>>+#endif
> 
> One more note. It's looks like you just disabled all fancy zero copy logic.
> Off corse this is just rfc patchset.
> But i think where is fundamental problem with it:
>  Previous logic was following:
>   1)splice code responsible for: stealing(if possible) and loking the page
>   2)prepare_write() code responsible for: do fs speciffic stuff
> 
>  But with new write_begin() logic  all steps (grubbing, locking, preparing)
>  happened internaly inside write_begin() witch doesn't even know about what
>  kind of data will be copied between write_begin/write_end.
>  So fancy zero copy logic is impossible :(

Check linux-mm: zero-copy splice is broken anyway, and AFAIKS it cannot
really be fixed to work with the current prepare_write.

> I think this can be solved somehow, but i dont know yet, how can this be done
> without implementing it inside begin_write().

Actually we could do it with begin_write. All we need to do is set a
flag to say that *pagep contains a page that we can use, with a copy of
the write data on it.

The filesystem would then be able to insert that page into the pagecache
*if* it could handle such an operation.

OTOH, is splice stealing support really important? I guess it could be a
nice win for a small niche of workloads, and we probably don't want to
exclude it by design...

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-15 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-14 13:38 [patch 1/5] fs: add an iovec iterator Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 13:38 ` [patch 2/5] fs: introduce new aops and infrastructure Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 21:28   ` Dmitriy Monakhov
2007-03-15  3:55     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]   ` <200703142246.27167.m.kozlowski@tuxland.pl>
2007-03-15  3:58     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15  4:13   ` Mark Fasheh
2007-03-15  4:36     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15  6:11       ` Mark Fasheh
2007-03-15  6:23       ` Joel Becker
2007-03-15  8:04         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 16:24       ` Steven Whitehouse
2007-03-15 20:06     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-03-15 20:44       ` Mark Fasheh
2007-03-15  9:44   ` Dmitriy Monakhov
2007-03-15 10:04     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-03-14 13:38 ` [patch 3/5] fs: convert some simple filesystems Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 13:38 ` [patch 4/5] ext2: convert to new aops Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 13:38 ` [patch 5/5] ext3: " Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 13:51 ` [patch 1/5] fs: add an iovec iterator Nick Piggin

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