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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, perex@suse.cz
Subject: Re: Broken moderation
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:57:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45FFDA31.8000106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hvegwccug.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

On 03/20/2007 01:35 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> The last post went through without moderation.
> Really puzzling.  Did someone approve manually?

That last one, not me. This one I'm now replying to (from within my 
inbox), yes, me. But yes, something is rotten here. As I said in a later 
message (which you hadn't seen at the time you wrote this due to the 
massive delay of some messages showing up on list even after manual 
moderator acceptance) I even have a message in my inbox from yesterday 
that hasn't made it yet.

My conclusion for the time being -- sourceforge sucks so bad that things 
are unsalvageable as long as the list is on there. linux-kernel is an 
open list and almost completely spam-free, so if vger is willing to host 
the list(s) I don't believe the alsa-project.org forwards would need to 
be disabled (although having a functional spamfilter on alsa-project.org 
directly will ofcourse also be good).

As to the difference with alsa-user -- as far as I'm aware, alsa-user is 
a subscriber-only list which makes all the difference. Personally I 
wouldn't terribly mind having alsa-devel subscriber-only as well but the 
list would then recieve major flack from linux-kernel posters who want 
to cross-post without needing to subscribe. I've personally long since 
concluded that although subscriber only lists may suck, the spam problem 
is just too big if you don't have a few full-time admins to throw at it 
and thereby sucks worse (vger does have those full-time admins).

Rene.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-20 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-11 23:24 [RFC][RFT] Adding support for Jazz16 based sound cards Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-03-12 11:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-03-12 23:23   ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-03-13  9:34     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-03-19  0:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-03-19 20:52   ` Rene Herman
2007-03-19 21:06   ` Rene Herman
2007-03-19 21:22     ` Rene Herman
2007-03-19 21:40       ` Rene Herman
2007-03-20 12:12         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-03-20 12:28           ` Broken moderation Takashi Iwai
2007-03-20 12:35             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-03-20 12:57               ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-03-20 14:58                 ` RESUBSCRIBE - New alsa-devel mailing list Jaroslav Kysela
2007-03-20 15:09                   ` Benoit Fouet
2007-03-20 15:38                     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2007-03-20 15:21                   ` Tobin Davis
2007-03-20 15:35                     ` Ingo Müller
2007-03-20 16:18                   ` Rene Herman
2007-03-20 17:25                     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2007-03-21  0:49                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Ed Wright
2007-03-21  9:10                     ` Rene Herman
2007-03-19 22:46   ` [RFC][RFT] Adding support for Jazz16 based sound cards Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-03-20 21:23     ` [Alsa-devel] " Rene Herman

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