From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xensource.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: New CPUID/MSR driver; virtualization hooks
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:31:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461578B6.6020908@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461575FB.9080508@xensource.com>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Yes, pretty much. There are enough evidence that you can't trust CPU
>> architecture to stay sane. Inside Transmeta it was a constant battle,
>> and we were a small company.
>>
>
> Is there any indication that the msr or cpuid instructions will change
> in this way? rd/wrmsr is pretty explicitly documented as taking the msr
> in %ecx, and the value in %edx:eax; do you think that will change? And
> likewise cpuid?
CPUID already has changed: some CPUID levels are sensitive to %ecx event
though CPUID was originally documented as being sensitive only to %eax,
and I know from personal experience that there are undocumented CPUID
levels in the wild which are sensitive to %ebx. I can't say for sure
(at least on the record) if there are MSRs with nonarchitectural
sensitivities in the wild, but if there aren't, I can guarantee that it
will happen sooner or later, if only because some junior microcode
designer thought it was a great idea.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-05 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-05 0:50 New CPUID/MSR driver; virtualization hooks H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 1:16 ` Chris Wright
2007-04-05 1:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 5:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-04-05 18:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 21:09 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-04-05 21:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 21:25 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-04-05 21:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 21:27 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-04-05 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 21:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-05 21:43 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-04-05 21:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-05 21:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-05 22:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-05 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-04-05 21:54 ` Chris Wright
2007-04-05 1:48 ` Tony Breeds
2007-04-05 5:00 ` Zachary Amsden
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