From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Subject: Re: I give up
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:47:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461AA64E.5040109@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6624.1176150799@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:08:34 EDT, Jeff Garzik said:
>> With current hard drive prices (200GB @ US$55, 500GB @ US$120) you can
>> just keep buying hard drives :)
>>
>> Surely tape price/GB is higher than hard drive price/GB...
>
> Erm. No. We're in the middle of installing an StorageTek SL8500 for backups,
> simply because an LTO3 tape holds 300G at a price point of $100 or so.
> And there's no sane way to build a half-petabyte disk farm at that price.
> (And yes, our tape backup service is well into the half-petabyte range, and
> will probably shoot over that as soon as the SL8500 is in production and we
> deal with all the backlogged requests for backup service).
>
> Don't forget to factor in the cost of disk shelves, power, cooling, and all
> that when you're building something to hold 2,500 200G drives. Oh. and
> controllers. And machines to put the controllers in... and all the rest of it.
Who says you have to keep the hard drives plugged into a machine at all
times?
> And remember - you *dont* want to be backing up critical data on the sort of
> hard drives that cost $55 for 200G - you'll want multiple copies, probably
> some RAID, etc etc.
The same can be said for tape. Anyone who only has a single tape backup
of critical data is an idiot. Plenty of war stories where such
scenarios go awry...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-09 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-09 14:07 I give up Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 14:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 15:37 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 16:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 18:36 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 19:38 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 21:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 22:22 ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10 1:27 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10 1:40 ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10 2:01 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10 7:12 ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10 7:51 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 8:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 16:08 ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10 17:29 ` David Lang
2007-04-10 16:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 3:54 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 15:51 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:29 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 20:27 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 21:16 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 21:26 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:27 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 7:53 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 12:24 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-10 20:45 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 19:05 ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11 4:01 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 14:46 ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11 15:07 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:12 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-11 16:43 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-11 17:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 3:47 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 3:41 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:11 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 19:49 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 20:08 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 20:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:32 ` Ralf Baechle
2007-04-09 20:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 20:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-09 20:47 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-04-10 3:34 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 3:38 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-10 6:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 6:59 ` CaT
2007-04-10 17:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11 3:57 ` Gene Heskett
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