From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>, Paa Paa <paapaa125@hotmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lower HD transfer rate with NCQ enabled?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:58:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461B0B7F.1030802@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461A51D0.3000708@cfl.rr.com>
Phillip Susi wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
>> Phillip Susi wrote:
>>> Sounds like this is a serious bug in the WD firmware.
>>
>> For personal systems, yes. For servers, probably not a bug.
>>
>> Disabling readahead means faster execution queued commands,
>> since it doesn't have to "linger" and do unwanted read-ahead.
>> So this bug is a "feature" for random access servers.
>> And a big nuisance for everything else.
>
> I think you misunderstand the bug. The bug is not that the drive
> disables internal readahead; the bug is that host supplied readahead
> requests work so horribly. It is a good thing that the drive allows the
> host to control the readahead, but something is wrong if the drive's
> readahead is WAY better than any the host can perform.
Well, in this case, it has already been determined that switching
to a different Linux I/O scheduler gives back most of the performance.
But the drive can do readahead better than the OS: With the OS,
everything is broken up into discrete requests, whereas with the
drive firmware, it can continuously update it's readahead projections,
even in the midst of a command. So it does have an advantage.
But again, only the WD Raptor seems to have serious problems here.
Other drives cope well with readahead + NCQ just fine.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-10 3:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-03 7:11 Lower HD transfer rate with NCQ enabled? Paa Paa
2007-04-03 9:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-03 21:31 ` Paa Paa
2007-04-04 2:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 21:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-03 16:31 ` Chris Snook
2007-04-03 16:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-03 19:17 ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-04 15:36 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-05 15:30 ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-05 16:11 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-05 16:45 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-09 14:46 ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-10 3:58 ` Mark Lord [this message]
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2007-04-05 16:26 Paa Paa
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