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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	emisca <emisca.ml@gmail.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:46:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46261337.3010406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070418132904.3322ba5f@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> Not that simple.  Most disks don't spin up on SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE if its 
>> cache is clean.  Sadly some disks actually spin up when it receives spin 
>> down command while spun down to immediately spin down again, so we would 
>> be fixing problem for some number of disks while breaking others.  :-(
> 
> Snoop the last command sent to the drive, that tells you if you can skip
> the cache flush ?

Thought about that and querying power state before doing shutdown 
sequence but things get somewhat ugly because shutdown sequence is 
driven from sd->shutdown().  We'll have to snoop both sync and shutdown 
commands and check whether the system is shutting down.  Also, I felt 
very uneasy about faking successful completion to SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE.

I dunno.  It's already too late for 2.6.21.  I was hoping we could get 
distros to update shutdown utilities in not-too-distant future but I 
have no experience with that.  Is that just a wishful thinking?

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-18 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-04-18 11:47               ` Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot Bodo Eggert
2007-04-18 12:05                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:29                   ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 12:46                     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-04-18 12:50                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:03                       ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 13:05                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:39                         ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19  7:18                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-19 12:59                             ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 13:32                               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:32                         ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:35                           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:06                           ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 15:16                             ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:25                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 17:08                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:19                                   ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:46                                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:22                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 21:27                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-21 23:20                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 23:27                                             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:29                                         ` Greg Freemyer
2007-04-18 17:46                                     ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 17:50                                       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-20 12:15                                         ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-20 19:57                                         ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21  9:45                                           ` emisca
2007-04-21  9:50                                             ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21 14:33                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-21 15:11                                             ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-18 17:04                               ` Stephen Clark
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2007-04-18 22:58           ` Robert Hancock
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2007-04-18 22:57   ` Robert Hancock
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2007-04-13 23:21 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-04-18 23:00           ` Robert Hancock
2007-04-18 23:25             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-19 13:30               ` emisca
2007-04-11 21:07 Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 21:35   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 22:07       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 19:42         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 19:36           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 20:47             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 21:13               ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-15 16:07     ` emisca
2007-04-15 19:06       ` auxsvr
2007-04-17 21:41       ` Mark Lord
2007-04-17 21:49         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17 22:03           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18  5:39             ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 21:31               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 23:36               ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 23:51                 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-14 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-15 15:53   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-15 18:50     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16 22:26       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17  7:00         ` emisca
2007-04-17  7:00           ` emisca
2007-04-17  7:37         ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-17 20:15         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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