From: David Warren <warren@atmos.washington.edu>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Bryan O'Sullivan <bos@serpentine.com>, nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: NFS caching bug is back
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:31:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4627C389.20902@atmos.washington.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1177006975.6623.8.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
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I did the fsck, which found no problems. However I have found a couple
of other interesting things here.
The directory mtime does not update on the client, but the link count
for the file is 0:
server:
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 89 2007-04-19 12:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 105 2007-04-19 08:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3 2007-04-19 12:02 ddd
client:
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 89 2007-04-19 11:38 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 77 2007-04-19 08:06 ..
-rw-r--r-- 0 root root 3 2007-04-19 12:01 ddd
Note - 11:38 is actually prior to me unexporting, fscking and
reexporting the filesystem.
Another discovery -
on a 32 bit client we are seeing an occasional delay before it picks up
the change, but it does eventually pick it up (1 - 5 seconds). The 64
bit clients do not. Also, if the server reuses the same inode the 32 bit
systems sees it immediately.
Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:06 -0700, David Warren wrote:
>
>
>> I don't know that much about the inner workings of the NFS protocol,
>> but considering that the inode has been removed and replaced by a new
>> one shouldn't all the return values from the access request be 0? It
>> seems odd that read, modify, extend and execute are allowed for a
>> nonexistent object.
>>
>
> The filehandle should normally be invalidated and any attempt by the
> client to use it should result in an ESTALE error. The exception would
> be if a hard link to the file still exists somewhere on the filesystem
> (which didn't seem to be the case in your test).
>
> Irrespective of whether or not the file still exists somewhere else, the
> mtime on the parent directory _will_ change when you unlink the file.
> The client is supposed to pick up on this and re-issue a LOOKUP and/or
> OPEN for the file, at which point the server should reply with an ENOENT
> or with the new file and its filehandle in something like your testcase.
>
> My immediate advice would be to take the whole filesystem offline and
> fsck it just in order to be sure that there are no corruption that might
> be confusing the NFS server.
>
> Cheers
> Trond
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-19 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-19 15:43 NFS caching bug is back David Warren
2007-04-19 16:25 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2007-04-19 18:06 ` David Warren
2007-04-19 18:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 19:31 ` David Warren [this message]
2007-04-19 19:36 ` David Warren
2007-04-19 19:52 ` David Warren
2007-04-19 21:29 ` NFS caching bug is back - We think we found it David Warren
2007-04-19 16:36 ` NFS caching bug is back Trond Myklebust
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