From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] RFC: hidden environment variables
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:19:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <462D3F00.10103@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070423221354.DE2BC353414@atlas.denx.de>
Wolfgang Denk wrote:
Obviously, at this point you're not going to allow support for hidden variables, so this
discussion is academic. With that in mind ...
> You don't expose two user interfaces. Make it clear from the
> documentation that the user is not supposed to manually chage this
> variable.
I don't like the idea of an environment variable that the user can edit but shouldn't.
Every times the user does 'print', it shows up. "Look, but don't touch" is not a good
user interface paradigm.
> Heck, if you really want then make it difficult by using a
> non-printing character in the variable name. But please don't try to
> tell your users that you know better than they what's good for them.
If I write code that stores data in an internal format, especially one that's subject to
change, of course I know better than the user what's good for him. If the user
manipulates the data incorrectly when he's been told (via the documentation) not to touch
it, then the code is just exposing itself to more crashes.
> The user will probably not care much about a few more cryptic
> environment variables. And you don't have to support setenv.
How do I not support setenv() if the data is in an environment variable? If the variable
I need is called "jumpers", then what's to stop the user from just doing "setenv jumpers
'blablabla'" and breaking my code?
--
Timur Tabi
Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-23 23:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-23 16:46 [U-Boot-Users] RFC: hidden environment variables Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 17:29 ` Grant Likely
2007-04-23 18:47 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-23 19:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 20:28 ` Scott Wood
2007-04-23 21:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 23:20 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-24 0:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-24 18:58 ` Rune Torgersen
2007-04-23 19:28 ` Ben Warren
2007-04-23 19:32 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-04-23 19:39 ` Ben Warren
2007-04-23 19:45 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 19:53 ` Ben Warren
2007-04-23 21:49 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 22:04 ` Ben Warren
2007-04-23 21:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 21:56 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 22:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 23:19 ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2007-04-24 0:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 21:34 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-24 9:05 ` Ladislav Michl
2007-04-23 19:49 ` Scott Wood
2007-04-23 21:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 19:50 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 20:05 ` Jeff Mann
2007-04-23 21:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 21:51 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 22:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-23 23:14 ` Timur Tabi
2007-04-23 23:52 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-04-24 13:43 ` Truong, Loc
2007-04-23 21:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
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