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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>, Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>,
	Rick Lindsley <ricklind@us.ibm.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] Ignore stolen time in the softlockup watchdog
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:46:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462E6CB7.9070403@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070424131427.940d461e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:00:49 -0700 Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>     
>>> Well, it _is_ mysterious.
>>>
>>> Did you try to locate the code which failed?  I got lost in macros and
>>> include files, and gave up very very easily.  Stop hiding, Ingo.
>>>   
>>>       
>> OK, I've managed to reproduce it.  Removing the local_irq_save/restore
>> from sched_clock() makes it go away, as I'd expect (otherwise it would
>> really be magic).
>>     
>
> erm, why do you expect that?  A local_irq_save()/local_irq_restore() pair
> shouldn't be affecting anything?
>   

Well, yes.  I have no idea why it causes a problem.  But other than
that, sched_clock does absolutely nothing which would affect lockdep state.

>>  But given that it never seems to touch the softlockup
>> during testing, I have no idea what difference it makes...
>>     
>
> To what softlockup are you referring, and what does that have to do with
> anything?

You dropped this patch, "Ignore stolen time in the softlockup watchdog"
because its presence triggers the lock tester errors.  The only thing
this patch does is use sched_clock() rather than jiffies to measure
lockup time.  It therefore appears, for some reason, that using
sched_clock() in the softlockup code is making the lock-test fail. 
Since the lock test doesn't explicitly do any softlockup stuff, the
connection must be implicit via sched_lock - but how, I can't imagine.

Since sched_clock() itself looks perfectly OK, and the softlockup
watchdog seems fine too, I can only conclude its a bug in the lock
testing stuff.  But I don't know what.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-27 21:49 [patch 0/4] Revised softlockup watchdog improvement patches Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49 ` [patch 1/4] Ignore stolen time in the softlockup watchdog Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24  6:49   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24  6:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24  6:58     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24  7:09       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24  7:09         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 17:51     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24 17:57       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 17:57         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 18:16         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24 18:32           ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 18:32             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 20:00             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24 20:14               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 20:14                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 20:46                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-04-24 20:24               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24 20:24                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24 20:33                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 20:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 20:48                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-24 20:52                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-04-24 20:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-24 20:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-24 21:01                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-04-24 21:14                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 21:14                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 21:20                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-24 21:33                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-27 21:49 ` [patch 2/4] percpu enable flag for " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49 ` [patch 3/4] Locally disable the softlockup watchdog rather than touching it Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-28 13:33   ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 13:33     ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 13:50     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-28 14:00       ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 14:09         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-28 14:13           ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 14:44     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-28 14:44       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-28 14:51       ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 14:51         ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 15:22         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-28 15:27           ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-28 15:27             ` Prarit Bhargava
2007-03-27 21:49 ` [patch 4/4] Add global disable/enable for softlockup watchdog Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-27 21:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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