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From: Vlad Yasevich <vladislav.yasevich@hp.com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] New driver API to speed up small packets xmits
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:32:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4643654F.5060207@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46436274.4060804@hp.com>

Rick Jones wrote:
> Vlad Yasevich wrote:
>> Rick Jones wrote:
>>
>>>> It is the reverse - GSO will segment one super-packet just before
>>>> calling
>>>> the driver so that the stack is traversed only once. In my case, I am
>>>> trying to send out multiple skbs, possibly small packets, in one shot.
>>>> GSO will not help for small packets.
>>>
>>> If there are small packets that implies small sends, which suggests that
>>> they would be coalesced either implicitly by the Nagle algorithm or
>>> explicitly with TCP_CORK no?
>>>
>>> rick jones
>>> -
>>
>>
>> May be for TCP?  What about other protocols?
> 
> There are other protocols?-)  True, UDP, and I suppose certain modes of
> SCTP might be sending streams of small packets, as might TCP with
> TCP_NODELAY set.
> 
> Do they often queue-up outside the driver?

Not sure if DCCP might fall into this category as well...

I think the idea of this patch is gather some number of these small packets and
shove them at the driver in one go instead of each small packet at a time.

I might be helpful, but reserve judgment till I see more numbers.

-vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-10 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-10 14:53 [RFC] New driver API to speed up small packets xmits Krishna Kumar
2007-05-10 15:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-10 15:22   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-10 15:48     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-10 16:08       ` jamal
2007-05-10 17:19     ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 18:07       ` Sridhar Samudrala
2007-05-10 19:43         ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-10 20:11           ` jamal
2007-05-10 20:14             ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 20:15               ` jamal
2007-05-10 20:15             ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-10 20:21               ` jamal
2007-05-10 20:25                 ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-11  5:22             ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11 11:27               ` jamal
2007-05-10 20:37           ` David Miller
2007-05-10 20:40             ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-10 20:57               ` David Miller
2007-05-11  6:07                 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  5:21             ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  5:20           ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  5:35             ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-11  5:43               ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  5:57                 ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-11  6:06                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  6:29                     ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-11  6:52                       ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-10 18:13       ` Vlad Yasevich
2007-05-10 18:20         ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 18:32           ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2007-05-10 18:40             ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 18:59             ` Ian McDonald
2007-05-10 19:21               ` Vlad Yasevich
2007-05-10 19:26                 ` Ian McDonald
2007-05-10 20:32                 ` David Miller
2007-05-10 20:49                   ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 21:02                     ` David Miller
2007-05-10 21:14                       ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-11  2:28                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-11  5:01                           ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-11  5:04               ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  9:01                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-11  9:18                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  9:32                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-11  9:52                       ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  9:56                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-11 11:30                           ` jamal
2007-05-11 11:53                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-11 12:15                               ` jamal
2007-05-10 21:27       ` David Stevens
2007-05-10 21:40         ` David Miller
2007-05-10 21:50           ` Gagan Arneja
2007-05-10 22:06             ` David Miller
2007-05-11  9:46               ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-10 21:41         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-10 22:09           ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 21:45         ` Rick Jones
2007-05-10 21:53           ` David Stevens
2007-05-10 20:21 ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-11  7:30   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11 11:21     ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-11  9:05 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-11  8:32   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11  9:37     ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-11  8:50       ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-05-11 11:16       ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-13  6:00         ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-15 16:25           ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-15 20:18             ` David Miller
2007-05-15 20:52               ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-15 21:48                 ` Michael Chan
2007-05-15 21:08                   ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-15 22:05                     ` Michael Chan
2007-05-15 21:28                       ` David Miller
2007-05-18  7:04                         ` Michael Chan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-11  7:14 Krishna Kumar2
     [not found] <OF0CAD6D87.DBE62968-ON872572DC.0073646A-882572DC.0073BEC2@us.ibm.com>
2007-05-15 21:17 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]   ` <OFF5654BB8.74EC8DCB-ON872572DC.00752079-882572DC.00756B23@us.ibm.com>
2007-05-15 21:25     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <OF21D475A2.5E5C88DE-ON872572DC.00763DE4-882572DC.00768A7E@us.ibm.com>
2007-05-15 21:38         ` David Miller
2007-05-15 21:32     ` David Miller
     [not found]       ` <OF6757F56D.EE5984FD-ON872572DC.0081026C-882572DC.00814B8F@us.ibm.com>
2007-05-15 23:36         ` David Miller
2007-05-21  7:56       ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]         ` <OF9ABCD08D.2CD1B193-ON872572E3.007A6FC1-882572E3.007ACE1A@us.ibm.com>
2007-05-22 22:36           ` David Miller
     [not found]             ` <OFCF3EB7F8.9740C0C7-ON872572E3.007DADF6-882572E3.007E0E7B@us.ibm.com>
2007-05-22 23:04               ` David Miller
2007-05-22 23:12             ` Herbert Xu

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