From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:56:33 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <464AF171.1050202@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4649FF7B.10107-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
>>> While KVM will inevitably start requiring newer kernel versions, do we
>>> really need to do it right now? Perhaps we could add dummy eventfd_*
>>> functions to the module compat header? Then at least older kernels will
>>> continue to work with in- kernel APIC disabled.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The plan as Avi and I agreed to (IIUC) is to support eventfd via the extern-compat header. The same could be said for HRT. I don't thing either one will be particularly pleasant to support in this fashion, but this is how he wants to do it. (Recall that I had abstracted the HRT in earlier versions which he requested to be removed, so I didnt bother with the eventfd interface). I agree that it will keep the kvm core code cleaner instead of having all these custom abstractions, so I see his point there. I'm just not looking forward to the compat work ;)
>>
>> That being said: Perhaps you just came up with a good compromise. The code is already structured to support both the old way and the new way. We could have the in-kernel modes disabled at compile time on older kernels. Thats probably a much better solution then trying to get HRT and eventfd emulated on, say, 2.6.9 ;)
>>
>> The implication here is that I don't plan on supporting new features via the old-way. For instance, SMP features would only work with in-kernel emulation. If we go down this route, it automatically means that older kernels will not have any other related advanced features, not just the performance/features currently offered. Perhaps this is acceptable also? I'm not sure.
>>
>>
>
> I don't know. I'm less concerned about long term implications than I am
> with short term ones. My primary concern was having new versions of KVM
> stop working on older kernels. If SMP requires in-kernel APIC, then
> provided that UP kernels still work, if someone is sufficiently
> motivated to get SMP working on older kernels, they can implement the
> eventfd emulation.
>
>
I'm not worried about eventfd -- we can just ship a
conditionally-compiled copy of the code with the external module (we
also need a non-syscall interface, as modules can't provide syscalls,
but that's easily workaroundable). hrtimers is more difficult, but
there's really no choice -- we can't #ifdef the core code for that.
I really would like to see smp working without kernel apic, as pure qemu
supports it. It would of course require newer modules.
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-15 14:57 [PATCH 0/9] in-kernel APIC v5 (kernel side) Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070515145404.15609.61552.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 14:57 ` [PATCH 1/9] KVM: Adds support for in-kernel mmio handlers Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:57 ` [PATCH 2/9] KVM: VMX - fix interrupt checking on light-exit Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:57 ` [PATCH 3/9] KVM: Add irqdevice object Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:57 ` [PATCH 4/9] KVM: Adds ability to preempt an executing VCPU Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:57 ` [PATCH 5/9] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070515145759.15609.34720.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4649E22F.3090308-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 16:55 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4649AD87.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 18:44 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4649FF7B.10107-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-16 11:56 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-05-15 14:58 ` [PATCH 6/9] KVM: Add support for in-kernel LAPIC model Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:58 ` [PATCH 7/9] KVM: Adds support for real NMI injection on VMX processors Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:58 ` [PATCH 8/9] KVM: Adds basic plumbing to support TPR shadow features Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 14:58 ` [PATCH 9/9] KVM: Add statistics from interrupt subsystem Gregory Haskins
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-15 3:15 [PATCH 0/9] in-kernel APIC v4 (kernel side) Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070515031217.9382.44999.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 3:15 ` [PATCH 5/9] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070515031536.9382.16826.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 7:45 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4649650E.2070102-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 12:02 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <464968D6.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 15:40 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705150832130.30085-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 16:18 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4649A4E1.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20070515162249.GA19238-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-15 16:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-05-15 17:16 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705151008400.30345-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-16 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <464AF269.7030402-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-16 19:59 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705161201410.12427-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-17 11:33 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <464C3D93.5090605-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-17 19:11 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705171010570.31677-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-17 21:57 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-20 7:20 ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-16 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-16 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-09 15:18 [PATCH 0/9] in-kernel APIC v2 Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070509151238.8673.4818.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-09 15:19 ` [PATCH 5/9] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor Gregory Haskins
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