From: Josh Triplett <josh@freedesktop.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: fun with ?:
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:40:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4653633B.3000000@freedesktop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070519025249.GZ4095@ftp.linux.org.uk>
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Al Viro wrote:
> There's an unpleasant case in conditional operator we are getting
> wrong.
> int *p;
> const void *v;
> int n;
>
> n ? p : (const void *)0
>
> According to C standard, the type of that expression is const void *. Note
> that
> n ? p : (void *)0
> is an entirely different story - it's int *.
That much actually makes sense to me. You can convert from (int *) to (const
void *), but not from (const void *) to (int *), so I'd expect the behavior of
the first case. You *can* convert bidirectionally between (void *) and (int
*), so I expect the behavior of the second case as well.
> What's going on here is pretty simple: there are two degenerate cases of
> conditional operator: pointer vs. null pointer constant and pointer vs.
> possibly qualified pointer to void. Look at these cases:
> n ? p : NULL => should be the same type as p
> n ? p : v => clearly const void * - pointer to void with union of
> qualifiers; in this case we obviously lose any information about the type
> of object being pointed to.
I didn't actually know about the special case for a null pointer constant.
> The tricky part comes from definition of what null pointer constant _is_.
> C allows two variants - integer constant expression with value 0 (we accept
> it, but warn about bad taste) and the same cast to void * (we also accept
> that, of course).
Right.
> Note that this is specific type - pointer to void. Without any qualifiers.
> We are guaranteed that we can convert it to any pointer type and get
> a pointer distinct from address of any object. So (const void *)0 is the same
> thing as (const void *)(void *)0 and it is the null pointer to const void.
> *HOWEVER*, it is not a null pointer constant. The standard is clear here and
> frankly, it's reasonable. If you cast to anything other than void *, then
> you presumably mean it and want the conversion rules as for any pointer
> of that type. Think of something like
> #ifdef FOO
> const void *f(int n);
> #else
> #define f(n) ((const void *)NULL)
> #endif
> You don't want to have types suddenly change under you depending on FOO.
Definitely not. I don't want qualifiers to disappear just because I applied
them to NULL.
> sparse is more liberal than standard C in what it accepts as null pointer
> constant. It almost never matters; however, in case of conditional operator
> we end up with a different type for an expression both sparse and any
> C compiler will accept as valid.
>
> I'm fixing other fun stuff in that area (e.g. we ought to take a union of
> qualifiers, ought _not_ to mix different structs or unions, etc.), so
> unless there are serious objections I'd rather go with standard behaviour
> in that case. What will change:
>
> int n;
> int *p;
>
> n ? p : (const void *)NULL int * => const void *
> n ? p : (const void *)0 ditto
> n ? p : (char *)0 int * => a warning on mixing int * with char *
> n ? p : (char *)NULL ditto
> n ? p : (void *)NULL int * => void *
> n ? p : (void *)0 unchanged
> n ? p : NULL unchanged
>
> Objections?
Thanks for the clear explanation. I think following the standard seems like a
good idea here, though I find some of the cases somewhat unintuitive and
potentially error-prone.
In particular:
> n ? p : (void *)NULL int * => void *
Shouldn't this have type int * just like n ? p : NULL ?
- Josh Triplett
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-22 21:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-19 2:52 fun with ?: Al Viro
2007-05-22 21:40 ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2007-05-22 22:46 ` Al Viro
2007-05-22 23:24 ` Josh Triplett
2007-05-23 0:02 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 0:25 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 1:05 ` Josh Triplett
2007-05-23 4:53 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 12:26 ` Morten Welinder
2007-05-23 1:03 ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-03 1:05 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 14:25 ` Neil Booth
2007-05-23 14:32 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 14:47 ` Neil Booth
2007-05-23 15:32 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 23:01 ` Neil Booth
2007-05-24 0:10 ` Derek M Jones
2007-05-24 0:14 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 21:16 ` Derek M Jones
2007-05-23 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 23:29 ` Derek M Jones
2007-05-24 0:02 ` Al Viro
2007-05-24 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 1:36 ` Brett Nash
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