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From: "Lars K.W. Gohlke" <lkwg82@gmx.de>
To: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to access correctly serial port inside module?
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:22:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4655676A.1000102@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46536C0F.50101@imap.cc>

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Tilman Schmidt schrieb:
> Am 15.05.2007 10:43 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
>> On May 15 2007 01:00, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
>>> Am 14.05.2007 22:00 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
>>>> On May 14 2007 19:40, Lars K.W. Gohlke wrote:
>>>>>> after searching the mailing list and searching the web, I still don't
>>>>>> know how to access correctly the serial port (in user space known as
>>>>>> /dev/ttyS01)
>>>> http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/WhyWritingFilesFromKernelIsBad
>>> That's not nice, sending a newbie on a wild goose chase like that.
>>> He doesn't want to write to a file from kernel after all. Reading
>>> FAQs is never bad, of course, but reading that particular one
>>> won't help him at all with this questions.
>> The original poster is quite unclear about how he wants to access the
>> serial port. [...]
>> Unfortunately, my magic sphere is out of order, so I could only take
>> a really really vague guess at what was wanted.
>
> He asked about "the correct way". The document you cited will just
> warn him against one of the many incorrect ones. That's less helpful
> than not answering at all.
>
>>>> inb/inw/inl, printk, outb/outw/outl.
>>> This is even less nice. You're sending him down the road of
>>> directly programming UART registers, knowing full well (I hope)
>>> that this a Bad Thing.
>> This is how 8250.c works.
>
> Exactly. Which is one reason why other parts of the kernel should not
> do it themselves. (Another being of course that if you do it that way,
> your code will only work with that particular type of serial port
> hardware. As the last of the Ten Commandments for C Programmers has
> been declaring for ages, you shouldn't assume that "All the world's a
> VAX^WPC.")
>
> HTH
> T.
>

ok, I have read everything and also have read the chapters about
tty_drivers. However I'm not really understand, how to ... .

I will summarize the concrete scenario, which will lead to the
understanding and further solution of deadling with serial driver.

[scenario]

	1. in userspace I'm doing: > date > /dev/ttyS0
	2. in kernelspace I want to print out this date.

[/scenario]

I'm really new to kernel coding, that's why I maybe understand some
functions not the proper way.

I'm a bit confused.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-24 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-14 13:00 How to access correctly serial port inside module? Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-14 17:40 ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-14 20:00   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-14 20:25     ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-14 23:00     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-15  8:43       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-22 22:17         ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-24 10:22           ` Lars K.W. Gohlke [this message]
2007-05-24 10:26             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-24 10:45               ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-24 10:50                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-24 11:20                   ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-24 17:03             ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-24 17:19               ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-24 17:29                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-24 19:15                   ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-28 17:05                     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-28 19:03                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-30  7:07                       ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-30  7:46                         ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-05-30  9:38                           ` Tilman Schmidt
     [not found]       ` <851fc09e0705162315w3380ddabh9b9f0b2198cb8457@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-22 21:55         ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-06-03 20:28           ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-06-05 21:41             ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-06-06  8:27               ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-06-07 22:25                 ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-06-08  0:27                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-14 22:37 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-24 10:51   ` Lars K.W. Gohlke
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2007-06-05  7:55 Lars K.W. Gohlke
2007-06-07 22:27 Lars K.W. Gohlke

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