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From: Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu <maxdamage@aladin.ro>
To: Juergen Beisert <juergen127@kreuzholzen.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkml@kev009.com
Subject: Re: ext2 on flash memory
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:46:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <466ECE02.7000707@aladin.ro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200706120953.03735.juergen127@kreuzholzen.de>

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Juergen Beisert wrote:
> So it makes no sense to find the best filesystem for such a case. 
> There is no best one.

It does make sense. Wear leveling isn't the only thing that matters. An
important criteria is the total amount of wear that you get when using a
filesystem. Some filesystems are simply not suitable: they either write
too often to disk (though, as I said, this can be alleviated by COW-ing
it or working on a copy and then updating the flash drive), or a single
operation requires too many changes to its image/structure. Normal fs-s
often change their internal structure, trading for space efficiency or
speed. Better storage and accounting of data involve more complicated
internal fs structures, that aren't too stable over time (that is, they
change often and much).

For example, an ISO9660 multisession rewritable CD/DVD trades space
efficiency and flexibility for a lower wear and better wear-leveling.
This is obvious, as the user triggers flushes to disk (that is, burning
a new session) with a lower frequency, when his work is done, and the
writes are always done sequentially (=> wear leveling). I'm not saying
anything about UDF, since I don't know much about it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-14 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-11 10:13 ext2 on flash memory DervishD
2007-06-11 11:11 ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-06-11 11:57   ` USB remote control missing keycodes Islam Amer
2007-06-11 15:02     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-13 14:08       ` Islam Amer
2007-06-13 14:58         ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-13 15:17           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-13 15:44             ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-13 15:58               ` Islam Amer
2007-06-13 16:17                 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-14 12:19                   ` Islam Amer
2007-06-14 12:30                     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-15 10:15                       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-15 10:51                         ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-17 10:57                           ` Islam Amer
2007-06-18 11:42                             ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-15 17:55     ` Phillip Susi
2007-06-11 17:36   ` ext2 on flash memory DervishD
2007-06-13 13:16     ` Ph. Marek
2007-06-13 23:02       ` DervishD
2007-06-14  5:16         ` Ph. Marek
2007-06-11 14:58 ` alan
2007-06-11 17:42   ` DervishD
2007-06-11 19:27     ` Juergen Beisert
2007-06-13 13:48       ` DervishD
2007-06-14 19:36         ` Jan Knutar
2007-06-14 20:07           ` DervishD
2007-06-11 23:53 ` Kevin K
2007-06-12  0:35   ` Kevin Bowling
2007-06-12  1:18     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-06-13 13:44       ` DervishD
2007-06-12  7:53     ` Juergen Beisert
2007-06-12 13:29       ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-06-12 16:46       ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu [this message]
2007-06-13 13:43   ` DervishD
2007-06-12 21:09 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-13  6:49   ` Juergen Beisert
2007-06-14 17:45 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-14 18:22   ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-14 20:20     ` DervishD
2007-06-14 20:43       ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 16:20         ` DervishD
2007-06-15 16:27           ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-14 20:17   ` DervishD
2007-06-14 20:38     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 16:16       ` DervishD
2007-06-15 16:36         ` Jörn Engel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-11 11:53 Tomasz Chmielewski
2007-06-12  0:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-14 16:38 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-14 17:19   ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2007-06-14 17:46     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-14 22:46       ` DervishD
2007-06-15 12:08         ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 16:22           ` DervishD
2007-06-15 16:22             ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 11:31               ` DervishD
2007-06-14 21:40 Tomasz Chmielewski

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