From: Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@hhs.nl>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@suse.cz>,
Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Proposal: change keycode for scancode e0 32 from 150 to 172
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:06:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <466F897C.4050109@hhs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <466F1E5C.5090002@zytor.com>
H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Hans de Goede wrote:
>> In order to be able to better test / develop this I've bought 2 cheap
>> such keyboards today, one ps2 and one both usb and ps2 capable.
>>
>> When comparing usb vs ps2 / testing the keycodes generated for the easy
>> access
>> keys on my trust (microsoft compatible) keyboard. I noticed the homepage
>> key sends keycode 150 with ps2 and 172 with USB, or for those who don't
>> know the keycodes by head with ps2 it sends KEY_WWW and with usb it
>> sends KEY_HOMEPAGE
>
> I just tested this using Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro, which is a
> dual-mode (USB-PS/2) keyboard.
>
> This key is labelled Web/Home and has a picture of a house on the keycap.
>
> In PS/2 mode it reports E0 32 which gets converted to keycode 150.
> In USB mode it reports E0 02 which gets converted to keycode 172.
>
Thanks, that confirms that the ps/2 translation (which assumes a microsoft or
compatible keyboard) is wrong.
> I don't know if it's the keyboard itself that's being inconsistent, or
> if it is the table in usbkbd.c that's broken (in which case it should be
> fixed to be consistent with the keyboard in PS/2 mode.)
>
See below.
>> I personally believe that the usb behaviour is correct and that the ps/2
>> code should be modified to match for consistency. The ps/2 scancode to
>> keycode mapping is set up to handle easy access / internet keys for
>> microsoft compatible keyboards. So what is the right code to send here,
>> tricky, see:
>> http://www.s2.com.br/s2arquivos/361/Imagens/555Image.jpg
>> http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_images/microsoft_ergonomic_keyboard_4000_black_usb_large.jpg
>>
>> The logo on the key is a homepage logo, the text below is www/homepage.
>> So what to send? I believe that for consistency with the usb codes send
>> it should be KEY_HOMEPAGE, but thats based on a sample of 1 usb
>> keyboard. Input on what other usb keyboards send for the key with the
>> homepage iocn is very much welcome.
>
> You seem to be of the opinion that "usb behaviour is correct", but don't
> give any motivation why usb should take precedence. Offhand, I would
> expect there to be fewer translation layers for PS/2 and would therefore
> assume PS/2 is more inherently correct.
>
I'm of the opinion that the USB behaviour is correct, because usb generates the
172 / KEY_HOMEPAGE in accordance with:
http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/Hut1_12.pdf
Page 84
Where as in the ps2 world there is no official scancode mapping for these
special keys, hence I talk about microsoft and compatibles. Also the number of
layers of translation in both cases is just 1: one table (ps2) versus one
switch statement (usb)
Regards,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-13 5:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-12 21:47 Proposal: change keycode for scancode e0 32 from 150 to 172 Hans de Goede
2007-06-12 22:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-13 6:06 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2007-06-13 9:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-13 9:25 ` Hans de Goede
2007-06-13 9:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-13 13:45 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-18 22:59 ` PATCH: " Hans de Goede
2007-06-19 13:44 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-06-13 13:02 ` Proposal: " Vojtech Pavlik
2007-06-13 10:38 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-06-14 12:35 ` Stanislav Brabec
2007-06-13 10:29 ` Vojtech Pavlik
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