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From: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: carsteno@de.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	richard.griffiths@windriver.com,
	Richard Griffiths <res07ml0@verizon.net>,
	Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.21] cramfs: add cramfs Linear XIP
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:53:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <467299F5.3070704@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <465BB5BA.3050900@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> Carsten Otte wrote:
>> The current xip stack relies on having struct page behind the memory 
>> segment. This causes few impact on memory management, but occupies 
>> some more memory. The cramfs patch chose to modify copy on write in 
>> order to deal with vmas that don't have struct page behind.
>> So far, Hugh and Linus have shown strong opposition against copy on 
>> write with no struct page behind. If this implementation is acceptable 
>> to the them, it seems preferable to me over wasting memory. The xip 
>> stack should be modified to use this vma flag in that case.
> 
> I would rather not :P
> 
> We can copy on write without a struct page behind the source today, no?
> What is insufficient for the XIP code with the current COW?

I've looked at the -mm version of mm/memory.c today, with intend to 
try out VM_PFNMAP for our xip mappings and replace nopage() with fault().
The thing is, I believe it does'nt work for us:
  * The way we recognize those mappings is through the rules set up
  * by "remap_pfn_range()": the vma will have the VM_PFNMAP bit set,
  * and the vm_pgoff will point to the first PFN mapped: thus every
  * page that is a raw mapping will always honor the rule
  *
  *      pfn_of_page == vma->vm_pgoff + ((addr - vma->vm_start) >> 
PAGE_SHIFT)

This is, as far as I can tell, not true for our xip mappings. Ext2 may 
spread the physical pages behind a given file all over its media. That 
means, that the pfns of the pages that form a vma may be more or less 
random rather than contiguous. The common memory management code 
cannot tell whether or not a given page has been COW'ed.
Did I miss something?

so long,
Carsten

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-15 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22 22:09 [PATCH 2.6.21] cramfs: add cramfs Linear XIP Richard Griffiths
2007-05-22 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-22 22:58   ` Richard Griffiths (wrs)
2007-05-23  7:51   ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-23 15:25     ` Richard Griffiths (wrs)
2007-05-24  6:46       ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-23 17:21     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-05-24  6:57       ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-29  5:10     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-02  0:48       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-02  8:42         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-04 13:32           ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-06 11:13             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 11:33               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 15:17                 ` Richard Griffiths
2007-06-06 15:50                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 16:09                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 16:07                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 16:16                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 18:26                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07 19:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 19:40                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 20:27                           ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08  7:39                           ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-07 21:11                         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07 21:15                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 22:59                             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08 13:19                               ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-08 13:10                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 16:15                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-06 16:23                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-06 18:40                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 22:59                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-07 17:07                     ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-07 19:38                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-07 20:34                         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08  7:28                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 16:02                             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08  7:17                         ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08  7:26                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08  7:50                             ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08  7:57                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08  7:59                                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08  8:04                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 16:05                                     ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08 16:09                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 16:11                                         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-08 16:15                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-08 17:51                                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-08 19:04                                               ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08 19:06                                                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-08 19:36                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-09  7:55                                                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-09 10:37                                                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-08 23:02                                                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07 21:19                       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-06 12:05               ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-06 19:01                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-07  1:00                   ` Justin Treon
2007-06-13  0:11             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-14 13:57               ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-14 16:53                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-15  9:22                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-15 11:49                     ` Heiko Carstens
2007-06-15 17:30                       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-06-18  7:38                         ` Carsten Otte
2007-06-15 13:53       ` Carsten Otte [this message]
2007-06-15 21:46         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-05-23  8:21 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-05-24 20:22 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-05-24 20:52   ` Richard Griffiths
2007-05-24 21:21     ` Jared Hulbert
     [not found] <337240.79058.qm@web59309.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
2007-06-09  8:09 ` Carsten Otte

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